steam.atomic
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What possible benefit is this? Why does it even exist? An AR-15 is a rifle and has no business being a handgun even for legal reasons.
What's the point of AR-15 pistols?
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What possible benefit is this? Why does it even exist? An AR-15 is a rifle and has no business being a handgun even for legal reasons.
Tex4426
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i am right there with you...i think its completely pointless..i guess the only thing it would be good for is maneuverability inside a vehicle for body gaurds but idk
Route2
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I didn't even realize that an AR-15 had become available as a handgun. Of course, the AR-15 has been made in so many versions that I am not surprised. Other than being an interesting conversation piece, wouldn't think it very practical.
Pietro Beretta
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Its tactical and cool... 
(that was a poor attempt at a joke)
(that was a poor attempt at a joke)
Not everything in this world needs a point. If someone has the money to spend and wants one why not? No better reason than, because I can.
Pietro Beretta
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I must agree with Robert; Ferrari, Lamborghini, Lotus --Bentley Rolls Royce ... all I can think is why not have any of this ridiculousness ? In my case, I don't have the money. :banghead:
I am sure everyone has something they want but don't need and is impractical.
Unless your Amish/Mennonite, but then again if you were Amish/Mennonite, why are you here? Again, that was my poor attempt at a joke,
I am sure everyone has something they want but don't need and is impractical.
Unless your Amish/Mennonite, but then again if you were Amish/Mennonite, why are you here? Again, that was my poor attempt at a joke,
I can honestly say I personally dont like the AR pistols with the buffer tube for any practical purpose
the RIA piston version on the other hand does look like it could be good for those that live in a state where SBR's are prohibited and could serve the same role as a SMG but with the better ballistic properties of a rifle cartridge
honestly the oddity factor and the "because we can" mentality is enough justification for me
the RIA piston version on the other hand does look like it could be good for those that live in a state where SBR's are prohibited and could serve the same role as a SMG but with the better ballistic properties of a rifle cartridge
honestly the oddity factor and the "because we can" mentality is enough justification for me
firesky101
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+1 for because I can. I personally would opt for the plr-16 though.
jackpinesavages
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Well, imagine a scenario where you need the magazine capacity and velocity levels of that and get yourseld a decent bull pup or a 5.7x28 pistola!?
Seriously, I'm not sure either, as it actually looks longer than some with collapsible stocks.
Seriously, I'm not sure either, as it actually looks longer than some with collapsible stocks.
mcdonl
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Why an AR long gun? I am a 43 year old professional living in Southern Maine in a quite neighborhood... Other than my hunting and trap line guns there is no real "point" to anything else I own.
Plan2Live
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I had the displeasure of having a guy with one of these take the empty lane to my left on the pistol range one day. This is an outdoor range that does not have any "walls" or brass barriers in between lanes. Needless to say, I was pelted with hot, spent cartridges and quickly packed up and left. Not to mention, the guy could barely hit a body outline target at 10 yards. So I echo the sentiment of what's the point?
I guess if you were doing some work with a ladder and you found it had a busted rung, you could use that AR-15 pistol and a few cable ties to replace the broken rung, but other than that I don't know.
The Lone Haranguer
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I am going along with the majority here. The protruding buffer tube makes it as long as if it had a buttstock. This takes away the compactness factor. The three-foot muzzle flash (Dude, major wow factor!) might be fun for a few shots, but I think it would get old very quickly. I don't think I would want to fire it indoors. Put a buttstock and a suppressor on it (following all laws, of course) and you might have something.
This takes away the compactness factor. The three-foot muzzle flash (Dude, major wow factor!) might be fun for a few shots, but I think it would get old very quickly. I don't think I would want to fire it indoors. Put a buttstock and a suppressor on it (following all laws, of course) and you might have something.Sport45
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Is it true that once you've configured a lower like that you can never make a rifle out of it? Or is it the other way around?
The Lone Haranguer
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If my understanding is correct, you can convert the pistol to the rifle, but it must always remain a rifle from then on.
CajunBass
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I really don't know, but not long ago, I happened upon a Thompson pistol. Picture a Thompson Submachine gun with no buttstock (semi-auto only of course). Man that thing was COOL. I was so tempted to buy it. With a 30 round stick magazine and short (10-12" barrel?) it looked more like a real Thompson than the full stock ones with a 16" barrel. It weighed more than a good sized dog. There was no way to shoot it as a pistol. About all I could imagine doing with it was spraying lead from the hip. I still wanted it...but that darned ol' practical side of me took over.
I suspect most pistol AR's are bought for the same reason.
I suspect most pistol AR's are bought for the same reason.
tdstout
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To those of you who are asking "what's the point", does everything you own have a specific purpose? You have never bought anything just because you thought it looked cool?
Do you have more than one deer rifle or varmit rifle? What's the point of that? I have a buddy that owns a .243, 30-30, 308, and one more that I can't think of right now, all for deer hunting.
I guess what i'm trying to say is, some people just like to buy guns, whether or not they have any REAL purpose.
Do you have more than one deer rifle or varmit rifle? What's the point of that? I have a buddy that owns a .243, 30-30, 308, and one more that I can't think of right now, all for deer hunting.
I guess what i'm trying to say is, some people just like to buy guns, whether or not they have any REAL purpose.
pockets
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One might ask, "What's the point of everything needing a point?".
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar......and sometimes the entire 'point' is spelled F-U-N.
What's the point of a Slinky? What's the point of a hairless cat? What's the point of Lady Gaga? I don't really want any of these personally, including AR pistols, but some people absolutely love them...including Gaga.
Thankfully, we live in a land where we are able to choose.
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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar......and sometimes the entire 'point' is spelled F-U-N.
What's the point of a Slinky? What's the point of a hairless cat? What's the point of Lady Gaga? I don't really want any of these personally, including AR pistols, but some people absolutely love them...including Gaga.
Thankfully, we live in a land where we are able to choose.
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Mainsail
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Maybe it has no other purpose but to give you something about which to complain.
While I do not have an AR pistol in 5.56x45, I do have a M&P15-22P and I've got to say that it is very handy and fun to shoot. With no recoil, I can brace it against my cheek. Makes for a very compact walk about unit for gophers and other target/plinking needs.
Heck, the flyers lately seem to be full of PTR-91 pistols in 7.62x51! Wait till that one shows up in the lane next to you at the pistol range...
Heck, the flyers lately seem to be full of PTR-91 pistols in 7.62x51! Wait till that one shows up in the lane next to you at the pistol range...
Capybara
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Keep in mind that I live in California. Two simple purposes...
1. In California, an AR pistol is the closest thing I can get to any kind of SBR. That's the way it is here.
I am building one with an 11" barrel and the OAL will be >26". This means that I an legally add a VFG. So I will have four points of contact, handgrip, VFG, cheek weld on the foam covering the buffer tube and a single point sling. With four points of contact and bracing, you can actually shoot fairly accurately, much better than an AR "pistol".
Overall, it is a range toy, it is for fun, not for competitive shooting or HD.
2. In this ridiculous state, an AR pistol is a political statement. Is it practical? Not really. Is it easy to shoot well? No. Is it fun? Yes, they are. But best of all, the anti-gun forces that run Sacramento don't want me to have one of these. In California, our off-list AR type rifles are considered to have "evil" features so an AR pistol is even more "evil".
Same with my Uzi. The original IMI Uzi is a banned AW here, so I have a Vector. Granted, it is a neutered 16" barrel, permanently stocked, semi-auto version, that is all we are permitted here so that is what I have. I plan on obtaining an AOW for the same reason. I have these guns because I can, because it is an irritant to the powers that be. None of the three weapons are highly practical and I have practical guns as well.
It must be hard to understand if you live in a free state but here, that is the way things are here. AR pistols are kind of cool, they are fun to shoot and they are interesting to build. They definitely serve a purpose, especially here in California.
BTW, Franklin Arms in California makes an AR pistol in .450 BM, that thing is crazy. Makes a 5.56 AR seem "normal" so it is all relative.
1. In California, an AR pistol is the closest thing I can get to any kind of SBR. That's the way it is here.
I am building one with an 11" barrel and the OAL will be >26". This means that I an legally add a VFG. So I will have four points of contact, handgrip, VFG, cheek weld on the foam covering the buffer tube and a single point sling. With four points of contact and bracing, you can actually shoot fairly accurately, much better than an AR "pistol".
Overall, it is a range toy, it is for fun, not for competitive shooting or HD.
2. In this ridiculous state, an AR pistol is a political statement. Is it practical? Not really. Is it easy to shoot well? No. Is it fun? Yes, they are. But best of all, the anti-gun forces that run Sacramento don't want me to have one of these. In California, our off-list AR type rifles are considered to have "evil" features so an AR pistol is even more "evil".
Same with my Uzi. The original IMI Uzi is a banned AW here, so I have a Vector. Granted, it is a neutered 16" barrel, permanently stocked, semi-auto version, that is all we are permitted here so that is what I have. I plan on obtaining an AOW for the same reason. I have these guns because I can, because it is an irritant to the powers that be. None of the three weapons are highly practical and I have practical guns as well.
It must be hard to understand if you live in a free state but here, that is the way things are here. AR pistols are kind of cool, they are fun to shoot and they are interesting to build. They definitely serve a purpose, especially here in California.
BTW, Franklin Arms in California makes an AR pistol in .450 BM, that thing is crazy. Makes a 5.56 AR seem "normal" so it is all relative.
CoRoMo
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Not so. You can go back and forth: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=606813
M2 Carbine
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While I have a AR 15 pistol I like the Kel Tec PLR a lot more.
The "point" is it's a smaller size gun than a the AR rifle. It is a high capacity very powerful "pistol". They are accurate. In the hands of someone that's practiced in it's use it would be a very deadly gun to go up against, no matter what you are armed with.
But the most important "point" of all is they are interesting and fun to shoot.
If it wasn't for one major problem with the rifle caliber pistols I would use them for many things, like car guns, HD guns, etc.
The problem is they have a ear shattering muzzle blast. They are very loud outside, but would be a ear wrecker in a car or indoors.
So pretty much I use them as range guns.
The "point" is it's a smaller size gun than a the AR rifle. It is a high capacity very powerful "pistol". They are accurate. In the hands of someone that's practiced in it's use it would be a very deadly gun to go up against, no matter what you are armed with.
But the most important "point" of all is they are interesting and fun to shoot.
If it wasn't for one major problem with the rifle caliber pistols I would use them for many things, like car guns, HD guns, etc.
The problem is they have a ear shattering muzzle blast. They are very loud outside, but would be a ear wrecker in a car or indoors.
So pretty much I use them as range guns.
dcarch
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The point of pistol ARs is to counter the anti-gunners blood pressure medication.
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