Where to find bullets sized.314"

[usmc0811]

Today I slugged my mosin nagant. It measured .313"
Where can I find bullets sized .314" ?

 

[chamokaneman]

Mine slugged about the same--.313-.3135. Interested in seeing what people have to say as well.

 

[usmc0811]

Mine slugged about the same--.313-.3135. Interested in seeing what people have to say as well.

Yeah I started looking online but can't find what I'm looking for. I have plenty of .308" but would like to find something a little bit closer to my bore.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Today I slugged my mosin nagant. It measured .313"
Where can I find bullets sized .314" ?

Quality Cast https://quality-cast.com/gas-checked/rifle-bullets/
They sell .303 British sized bullets with and without gas checks. The 200gr. GC-SP sized to .313" is Hi-Tek coated and shoots like jacketed. It is pretty darned accurate in all of my Mosins and SMLE's - EXCEPT a Finn M39 whose bore is .310" That bullet's too tight in that rifle's bore and tends to shoot wide from a cold barrel. Since I'm not a target shooter and my rifles all hunt, that's no good for me. At $20/100 they're not cheap but they shoot well in bores .311-.314" I have an old Lithgow with a frosted bore that goes close to .315" and I can still hold a pie plate at 200yds with these over a lower charge of IMR 4064.

 

[.38 Special]

Buffalo Arms has them as well - for a price. https://www.buffaloarms.com/314-diameter-205-grain-rngc-h-314299-314.html

Seems like a good excuse to take up casting, to me.

 

[usmc0811]

Quality Cast https://quality-cast.com/gas-checked/rifle-bullets/
They sell .303 British sized bullets with and without gas checks. The 200gr. GC-SP sized to .313" is Hi-Tek coated and shoots like jacketed. It is pretty darned accurate in all of my Mosins and SMLE's - EXCEPT a Finn M39 whose bore is .310" That bullet's too tight in that rifle's bore and tends to shoot wide from a cold barrel. Since I'm not a target shooter and my rifles all hunt, that's no good for me. At $20/100 they're not cheap but they shoot well in bores .311-.314" I have an old Lithgow with a frosted bore that goes close to .315" and I can still hold a pie plate at 200yds with these over a lower charge of IMR 4064.

Nice thanks. I'll have to get some to try.
What powder do you recommend for the 303 British bullets sized to .313"? I have on hand two pounds of IMR4895, would that be good?

 

[usmc0811]

Buffalo Arms has them as well - for a price. https://www.buffaloarms.com/314-diameter-205-grain-rngc-h-314299-314.html

Seems like a good excuse to take up casting, to me.

Wow expensive. I do cast. So far only have done pistol bullets. I have close to a 1000 pounds of soft lead pipe I melted into ingots and a bunch of ingots from wheel weights. How do you suggest I get them hard enough to use in this rifle?

 

[.38 Special]

Probably the easiest and/or cheapest method is to cast with wheelweights and drop them from the mold into water. This should give you a BHN of about 18. Combined with a gas check, that should be just about perfect.

 

[Bcwitt]

Nice thanks. I'll have to get some to try.
What powder do you recommend for the 303 British bullets sized to .313"? I have on hand two pounds of IMR4895, would that be good?

Yes

 

[Hooda Thunkit]

I shoot straight wheel weights, air cooled, out of my Finn Mosin M39. BnH about 13.
But then, I'm not shooting at 2700 fps either.

You will find that the Mosin will be very accurate with cast somewhere around 1800 fps. I'm shooting a NOE version of the 314299 at about 1700 fps, and doing very well; for eyes in their 7th decade. 2" or less for 10 shots at 100 yards on a good day.

You don't need anything very hard to shoot at that speed.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Nice thanks. I'll have to get some to try.
What powder do you recommend for the 303 British bullets sized to .313"? I have on hand two pounds of IMR4895, would that be good?

Definitely. I use IMR 4064 because it’s a good general purpose rifle powder. BLC2 is good for most loads and IMR 4895 is probably better, to be honest but I save it for self-loaders.

 

[usmc0811]

I shoot straight wheel weights, air cooled, out of my Finn Mosin M39. BnH about 13.
But then, I'm not shooting at 2700 fps either.

You will find that the Mosin will be very accurate with cast somewhere around 1800 fps. I'm shooting a NOE version of the 314299 at about 1700 fps, and doing very well; for eyes in their 7th decade. 2" or less for 10 shots at 100 yards on a good day.

You don't need anything very hard to shoot at that speed.

Do you gas check them?

 

[Hooda Thunkit]

Do you gas check them?

Yes. I probably don't need to, but the mould calls for it. If I buy another I will try the plain-base version.

Another point I want to make: I find heavier bullets more accurate in the Mosins. 185 gr +. I've not had much luck with the 150 -165 gr.

Right now I'm shooting the NOE at 210gr checked and lubed.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

How does factory ammo shoot in your Mosin? Mine likes Tula. The bullets they use are .311. PPU uses .310. They don't group as tight as the Tula. But still accurate enough to bring down game. The PPU brass i use for reloads.

 

[usmc0811]

Yes. I probably don't need to, but the mould calls for it. If I buy another I will try the plain-base version.

Another point I want to make: I find heavier bullets more accurate in the Mosins. 185 gr +. I've not had much luck with the 150 -165 gr.

Right now I'm shooting the NOE at 210gr checked and lubed.

Nice thank you. I'll be powder coating them as well so might be able to avoid the gas checks if I do.

 

[usmc0811]

How does factory ammo shoot in your Mosin? Mine likes Tula. The bullets they use are .311. PPU uses .310. They don't group as tight as the Tula. But still accurate enough to bring down game. The PPU brass i use for reloads.

It's been years since I shot it with factory ammo I can't remember

 

[Hooda Thunkit]

Nice thank you. I'll be powder coating them as well so might be able to avoid the gas checks if I do.

If I were powder coating I would absolutely use a plain base version - at least at the velocity I'm shooting.

Good luck with it. Let us know how it works out.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Check with @AJC1 about PCoating. He's made a serious study of it.