who loves Ted Nugent?

[Davek1977]

Ted Nugent is NOT a fudd. I support him.

So you support guys who dodge drafts and have a bad habit of getting caught violating game laws? The way I see it, for every time someone is CAUGHT poaching or violating game laws, there are probably many more incidents that go unreported. Between dodging drafts, violating game laws, and being a general blow hard in all regards that often paint gun owners in the most negative of lights, I can't fathom why some people still think he's the best think for gun owners since the introduction of Hoppes #9.

http://blogs.kansas.com/outdoors/2012/04/23/ted-nugent-guilty-of-wildlife-violations-again/

 

[mljdeckard]

The draft dodge story is proving difficult to verify. As for the poaching charges......let's just say I'm absolutely certain he got an excessive amount of scrutiny and attention in the investigation and prosecution IN CALIFORNIA. Let's see what actually sticks in the long term.

 

[javjacob]

No offense but that is a strange way to look at things. Just because someone like guns doesn't mean I will like them. Just because someone likes guns doesn't mean they are right. Just because someone likes guns doesn't mean they represent me. I have met quite a few gun owners over the years that were just not good people. Sorry but to earn my respect someone has to have a little more to them than that. Ted nugent has not earned my respect

you must have mis understood me. I said there are 2 sides to the gun rights. I never said I like anyone who likes guns. I just said Im on the same side he is on. that is all. So we are all on the same side as ted nugent.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I liked Ted before I ever knew he liked guns.

 

[Davek1977]

Let's see what actually sticks in the long term.

I'm confused by this statement. What do tou mean? The charges DID stick...he PLEAD GUILTY to them. Its not as if they'll be reversed at this point. You can attempt to defend him if you must, but he's a confessed (by way of guilty pleas) poacher, who has either dodged the draft, or or is a big, fat liar.....pick your poison I guess. Neither deserve the admiration of millions of gun owners, and surely doesn't make him a good spokesman for them

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nugent.asp repeated liar, or draft dodger....He's obviously one of the two...which is more honorable in your book? Both are reasons I'd distance myself from someone.....


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/08/18/99323/ted-nugent-charged-with-11-deer.html#.Ugsu023BxWQ I dunno about scrutiny....seems like he pretty flagrantly violated the law, made an episode about it, and then aired himself breaking the law. How is that justifiable for a "great American hero" as so many try to make him out to be? I'm actually of the opinion that the Alaska case was more of a misunderstanding than the california case, as most states don't state a wounded animal is considered a filled tag.

 

[herrwalther]

Philosophically I am on the same page as Ted Nugent. Just not with his tactics as a loudmouth.

 

[12131]

You can be a draft dodger and later become patriot. That is like someone that was a liberal can not become a conservative. Those old enough and lived in Texas know that the only people you could vote were Democrats. Yes there were conservative Democrats.You just had to pay attention who you voted for, even more so today.
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Agree!
A perfect example going the opposite way is John McCain, a war hero who now is nothing but a traitor, imho.

 

[olderguns]

I don't know why some people think just because someone likes or does the same thing as they do it makes them a cool/ok guy,
As an example Motorcyclists most give that little two finger pointing to the ground wave at each other I refuse to, just because they ride does not make them great guys, like the one dude in my neighborhood everyone thought was so cool until he was busted in bed with a 12 year old,
And ted liking guns now means nothing as to the kind of man he is or was, a draft dodging drug using EX rockstar is not my idea of a great role model,

 

[csa77]

I could care less whether or not Ted dodged the draft.
I could care less whether or not he broke some game laws.
My only concern is does he echo my beliefs about the 2nd amendment...he does.

 

[Davek1977]

I refuse to overlook things I find despicable about a person simply because of a shared passion. That is just disingenuous to me. If me and the neighborhood pedophile had a common interest in stock cars, I wouldn't be hanging out in his garage anytime soon.....I take a full measure of a person, not just cherrypick the parts of a person I approve of and try to gloss over the rest..... an admitted poacher isn't the type of hunting role model I want future generations to have,and yes, I do believe multiple instances of breaking the law (laws regarding the very sort of thing he claims to be an advocate for) greatly diminishes his credibility. He preaches to the choir, and obviously is only about 50% or so effective at getting THEM on board with him....if he causes this much derision among gun owners and hunters, imagine what the fence-sitters and anti's think of him. We don't need to influence EACH OTHER that guns and hunting are good wholesome things....we need to convince the very sorts that see Ted as a fringe lunatic who was unfortunately given a bullhorn to air his views.

 

[pockets]

A few years back finally got to see him. It was a complete joke, he played for awhile then ranted & raved about his agenda and insulted half the audience with his opinionated garbage.

I saw him a few years back opening for ZZ Top. He ranted endlessly about 'buy American' and such.......over a microphone & PA system made in China. Yes, his guitar was made in America, but I doubt much else on the stage was.
I enjoyed the Amboy Dukes when I was a teen, Nugent alone never did it for me though.

As for guns and Nugent? He doesn't represent me. My idea of hunting is not buying a big game preserve, sitting watching TV in a comfy treehouse 20 yards from a feeder and water trough; "Just let me know when the deer comes by to eat, maybe I'll shoot him if the camera is running". Yes, I watched 'Spirit Of The Wild' last night....mostly for Shemane Nugent. But Ted can shoot a bow...I'll grant that.

I'm confused with folks saying what a druggie he was. Although Ted does get confusing when he talks. On his VH1 bio-doc, he claimed to have never done drugs, nor even to have known that 'Journey To The Center Of The Mind' was about drugs. He also claimed to not drink back then also....but. Now, since the 90s he proclaims his anti-drug and anti-alcohol position. He was a spokesman for DARE, advocating the "natural highs" to be found in an outdoor lifestyle.
But over the years he has said so many conflicting things about what he did do, didn't do, believed,, etc......I've lost track.
He's a celebrity, he'll do and say whatever it takes to keep him in the limelight.

BTW: He's looks really old and worn-out with that beard. He looks 10 years younger without it (well, he can keep his 'soul patch').

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[HexHead]

I like Ted. But not enough to buy his ammo.

 

[pockets]

I like Ted. But not enough to buy his ammo.

I forgot about his ammo!
According to what I saw last night on a commercial during 'Spirit Of The Mild', there can't be an ammo shortage.
Because Ted told me personally on my TV that his ammo is available everywhere!

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[silicosys4]

He also will only hunt Indian reservations over here for black bear....because they let you hunt over bait stations while the rest of the state says no baiting.

 

[303tom]

Uncle Ted is my HERO !..................

 

[The Bushmaster]

12131...Are you saaying that John McCain is a traitor??? How so?

Oh...And as far as teddy boy. In most cases he does not speak for me.

 

[Torian]

He's made mistakes, but he loves his country (although clearly not a fan of the current administration), and spends his time and money trying to further RKBA causes.

The man speaks from his heart, albeit sometimes misguided. Yes his speeches don't really compare to the public speaking abilities of our politicians who can lie to your face with a smile every time.

I'm happy to have him on board.

 

[NoirFan]

Don't care about his draft dodging, his drug use or any of that.

Don't care that he happens to support many of my positions on gun rights.

I do care that he's a demagogue who only know how to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Scaring his far-right core audience and riling up the paranoid is his only marketable skill; if not for his hollering, he wouldn't have a job. Anyone who has a financial stake in demagoguery is not someone who's worth listening to.

 

[grter]

Sounds like one of the few Typical Americans left in a day and age of usless suedo american sports fans who don't play sports themselves (no offense to those pysically unable to,) are frightened of bucking the grain, afraid to speak their mind, who kiss the behinds of lying politicians and other crooked entities who in turn thank them by giving their behinds the huge quadrupal whammy (or more, as much as they can cram is the mentality.)

They hide behind their family and children who are only destined to become perhaps even worse lowly slaves than themselves as "things progress" over time. "I have family and kids to worry about" translation I am guarranteeing my kids subjication and slavery to the those who look down on people like us as trash because of my pathetic infidelity.

If you want to call others a lowlife think about this. In their eyes (the corrupt and powerful) you are nothing but common garbage so before you jump up and down like a poodle with your hands out every time they throw you bone by making you feel like you are popular big poop and a part of their 'sic' family. That is a fantasy that you will one day abruptly wake up from.

Not quite point on but a good generalization don't you think ?

 

[X-Rap]

Agree!
A perfect example going the opposite way is John McCain, a war hero who now is nothing but a traitor, imho.

Add to the list John Kerry.

The draft, Viet Nam? we don't have the draft today and not many will say the war was worth the cost, especially those who paid some of that cost.
There are a heck of a lot more men Teds age that didn't go for one reason or another and few of them are the traitorous wretches that the two Senators are.

 

[Double Vision]

I've always been a big fan of Ted Nugent's music (since 40 years ago) and also like his position on hunting and firearms.

Uncle Ted may be over the top for some people, but he speaks his mind on matters that I also support.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

Philosophically I am on the same page as Ted Nugent. Just not with his tactics as a loudmouth.

I would put myself in this category as well. I have voiced my reservations about him in the past, but I do acknowledge that he spends a lot of time, money and effort on promoting 2A issues. I just don't know if his delivery hurts enough to cancel out his efforts.

As far as him getting caught violating game laws, I'm pretty sure that a lot of it was done on purpose to make a point. After all, if he would have been trying to get away with something, he wouldn't have aired it on his TV show.

Don't care about his draft dodging, his drug use or any of that.

What drug use would you be referring to?

 

[Davek1977]

I see absolutely NO advantage in any way to getting oneself arrested for poaching while pretending to be the last great American hunter on TV....you'll have t0 explain that one a bit more to me before I begin to buy it....exactly what sort of "activism" is shooting an illegal buck over bait where baiting isn't allowed? Enlighten me please. What exactly was this "point" he was attempting to make?

 

[SunnySlopes]

Sounds like one of the few Typical Americans left in a day and age of usless suedo american sports fans who don't play sports themselves (no offense to those pysically unable to,) are frightened of bucking the grain, afraid to speak their mind, who kiss the behinds of lying politicians and other crooked entities who in turn thank them by giving their behinds the huge quadrupal whammy (or more, as much as they can cram is the mentality.)

They hide behind their family and children who are only destined to become perhaps even worse lowly slaves than themselves as "things progress" over time. "I have family and kids to worry about" translation I am guarranteeing my kids subjication and slavery to the those who look down on people like us as trash because of my pathetic infidelity.

If you want to call others a lowlife think about this. In their eyes (the corrupt and powerful) you are nothing but common garbage so before you jump up and down like a poodle with your hands out every time they throw you bone by making you feel like you are popular big poop and a part of their 'sic' family. That is a fantasy that you will one day abruptly wake up from.

Not quite point on but a good generalization don't you think ?

Aside from misspelled words, horrendous syntax and grammar, no, it's not a good generalization.

Actually, I'm reading your post for the second time and still don't know what you're trying to say.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

I see absolutely NO advantage in any way to getting oneself arrested for poaching while pretending to be the last great American hunter on TV....you'll have t0 explain that one a bit more to me before I begin to buy it

I never said it made sense, but common sense would tell you that if you want to get away with something, you don't broadcast it on national television.