Who made Navty arms 1851 navy brass framed .36

[tallpaul]

At the local gun show I happened to be workin a booth with a friend and spotted a brass framed open top and asked the guy what he wanted for it. The brass was tarnished but the price was too low to say no to. The timing is perfect and the bluing looks almost new other where it looks like a cap was fired on one cylinder and the brass tarnished. It has a straight no step cylinder and is .36 I am assuming a brass framed 1851 navy...

It is a Navy Arms= how do I tell who made it? I picked up an uberti .36 1858 remington off of a facebook post a month or two back that was not likely shot but has light pitting around the cyl and the frame

I think I have two great shooters at this point I have been wantin to try cap and balls other than my old army.

 

[Crawdad1]

There has to be a makers mark on there some place.


Then use this info,

 

[tallpaul]

I cleaned the brass up and from your info its a 1970 Uberti!


FRom what I understand the uberti's are worth a bit more? Is that true?

Any guess on a 95 percent or higher 1851 uberi brass frame pistol?

not fore sale but curious

 

[Crawdad1]

That's great!!! I personally like the Uberti over the others. But a glance at some of the black powder auction sites show that they sell around the same as the other makers.

Enjoy your new revolver.

 

[D. Buck Stopshere]

1. If it is a Pietta mfg, it will be spelled out on the right side of the barrel just in front of the frame (receiver) beginning with "Filla….Pietta"

2. If it is a Uberti (OO-BER-TEE), its trademark is a "picture" of a pistol or rifle muzzle with the letter "U" centered in the bore. "Uberti" may be marked on the barrel under the loading lever.

3. If it is an Armi San Marcos, it is usually marked under the barrel, hidden by the loading lever, "A.S.M. Made in Italy"

4. If its an Armi San Paulo, its mark is a interlocking three letters, "DGG".

I would venture to guess that its an Armi San Marcos or Armi San Paulo mfg. Val Forgett said he liked the quality of ASM & ASP back in the '60's & '70's for the brass frames. I started as a Navy Arms distributor/dealer in 1972 and sold the brass frames and retailed them @ $ 49.95. I sold them by the dozens, every month for a couple of years.

Regarding "tallpaul" and his inquiry, there's not a big demand for Uberti brass frames even back to 1970, UNLESS, its LNIB, unfired.

Uberti steel frames however, have always been more sought-after because of their quality, especially the Remington New Model Army in .44 and .36 calibers. Some of the importers like Cimarron in Texas add nice finishing touches features like polished internal parts, "fire-blue" screw heads, and charcoal-blue finish (not very durable). Except for one Pietta Remington model, all Uberti Remingtons have dove-tailed high front sights, making them adjustable for windage. Compare a new Uberti revolver with a new Pietta revolver, and cycle the action on each, and listen for the difference.

I sell like-new condition, TIGHT, standard brass-frames between $125 to $175. New ones start about $219 + shipping at Cabelas.

 

[StrawHat]

During the period Navy Arms was importing C&B revolvers a wide variety of makers were used. Uberti was, at that time, one of the best. Many of the imported revolvers had no makers marks on them. It is good you were able to ID yours.

Kevin

 

[Fingers McGee]

The first revolvers imported by Navy Arms (in 1958) were made by Gregorelli & Uberti; which in the mid 60s became A.Uberti. Pietta made their first 1851 Navies around 1967 (for a French company); but did not start exporting to the US until around 1972.

Early Piettas were marked with a script FAP, then the FAP in a diamond, until the now familiar F'lle Pietta. They were marked on the barrel lug, frame bottom, the bottom of the backstrap, and other locations as well as the side of the barrel.

Armi San Marco used a wide variety of markings; Armi San Marco, San Marco, Marco, ASM, SM, and a starburst with Marco around it. Armi San Marco also marked their repros in a variety of locations over the years.