Why are soldiers not allowed to carry on base, etc.?

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We also have to remember these rules have been in place for a long time when pretty much the military were made up of upper class officers who paid for their commission and scum they could get to sign on. Todays military has advanced quite a bit over the centuries though the military is very much into tradition and following the old regulations that tend to be not on the trusting side of people you sign up and train to kill whoever you point them at.
 
I have to agree with posts about it being a matter of controlling the weapons themselves. Those M-16's, M92's, and other military arms are not cheap. Given the going pay-rates if they were allowed permanant issue several would be pawned and/or sold. Not to mention the issue of the fully auto variety getting into civilian hands. As for the ownership of private arms, while I have no personal experiance, its been my understanding that with a little trivial paperwork its not hard to obtain the ability to keep your personal weapons at the base. Before the previous posts it had never crossed my mind about the "Private Pyle" events, but its a serious issue as well. Anytime you have people subjected to high stress activity theres a chance of a breakdown.
 
Well, as for the need to carry, I know of at least three on base shootings. One was shapping up to be a spree murder at a hospital, but that was stopped by a security forces airman. With a hangun, from a range which I'd give him a 'handgun sniper' award if possible. (I seem to remember ~50 yards).

Now, I'm a part of the USAF, we're allowed to keep the guns in base housing, but not dorms.
 
This is how i go about this situation, of carrying on post. i am smart about it. ya get my drift? there was a drive by shooting at a popular,solider hang out last year at ft. riley. and my house on post was a stones throw away. military post might be a safe place but i do not trust the security personel with the safety of my family, so i will take it upon myself just like i would if i was a civilian, living in a civilian city.

btw as far as pow goes in military housing, there is no way they were all unloaded, and locked up, ha ha ha ha, that is the rule but come on!
 
Worker at Fort Knox Kills 3, Then Shoots Himself

I worked a block from where this happened, although in Oct 1993 I was about a mile from the scene. I knew each of those shot and the shooter.





Worker at Fort Knox Kills 3, Then Shoots Himself

Published: October 19, 1993

The authorities said a civilian Army base supply clerk, whose temporary promotion to supervisor recently ended, killed his boss and two co-workers and severely wounded two others today.

The clerk, Arthur Hill, then drove 40 miles from Fort Knox to the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Louisville, walked to the restroom and shot himself in the head with the .38-caliber gun he used in the slayings, the authorities said. Mr. Hill was in critical condition, a spokeswoman said.

Mr. Hill, 53, and all five victims were civilian employees at Fort Knox, which is home of the nation's gold repository and an Army tank training center.

One victim, Paul W. Higdon, 49, of Louisville, was chief of the Training Support Center, with 30 years in the civil service. His son, Jason, said Mr. Hill had just learned that he was passed up for a promotion.

"He found out, I believe, this morning when he got to work," Jason Higdon said in a telephone interview from Louisville.

Laurie Viggiano, a Fort Knox spokeswoman, said she could not say whether a supervisor's position had been vacant or whether Mr. Hill had been filling in for an employee on leave.

Mr. Hill reported to work Monday morning. The shootings occurred at least an hour later, Lieut. Col. Kevin Kelley said. In Good Standing

Colonel Kelley said Mr. Hill, an Army veteran who had worked at the center for 11 years, had not filed any grievances and had been an employee in good standing.

Marla Highbaugh, a spokeswoman for the V.A. hospital said Mr. Hill had entered the hospital and asked directions to a bathroom but stopped at an automatic teller machine. A shot was heard about a half-hour later, she said.

She said Mr. Hill had been treated for medical problems at the hospital but had never been admitted.

A neighbor of Mr. Hill's in Radcliff, about 10 miles from Fort Knox, said Hill loved children and coached youth football for many years.

"He's a good man," said Truddy Telfare. "He's a good person. I don't believe this. Something must have set him off."

The police said Mr. Hill was married and had three grown children.

Fort Knox holds about 147 million troy ounces, or 12,250,000 pounds, of gold. The shooting took place about three miles from the gold repository. The base covers about 109,000 acres and has 32,000 civilian and military employees.

The other dead were identified as Deborah Glenn, 36, a general supply specialist who had been there nine years, and Wanda M. Simmons, 45, of Rockhaven, a general supply specialist with nine years' experience.

The wounded were both in critical condition with chest wounds at University Hospital in Louisville, said a spokeswoman, Gayle Jewitt.
 
Having served at Ft Sill I can say the biggest reason for why guns were not allowed was , believe it or not , suicide. That was the main concern by post command and for good reason . Just while I was there a soldier in the next barracks over walked into the community shower and offed himself with a pistol . Before that a soldier several barracks away also killed himself using a gun . It was also expressed that the worry of a soldier taking out his commander etc was there , but suicide was first and foremost what they were trying to prevent .

Btw , between my mechanics and myself , we had over 20 firearms in the armory and took them out weekly with no problem . Also had numerous off post that we used . The only thing we couldn't do was pack on post . Big deal , I felt safer there than anywhere else I've been .
 
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