Why Arent 9mm Revolvers More Popular?

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I've not read every response in the thread so if this is redundant, you can ignore.

I see no point in shooting an auto loader cartridge in a revolver. How does it make any sense to shoot 9mm in a revolver other than for the mistake of thinking you're only going to own "one caliber?" Every auto loader cartridge is a compromise in some way to allow for proper feeding and ejection.

Why foist that handicap upon a revolver when it is absolutely unnecessary?

I suspect more revolver owners realize this and thus the auto cartridges in revolvers are far less popular.
 
HKGuns said:
I see no point in shooting an auto loader cartridge in a revolver. How does it make any sense to shoot 9mm in a revolver other than for the mistake of thinking you're only going to own "one caliber?"

Why foist that handicap upon a revolver when it is absolutely unnecessary?.
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Because it isn't a handicap for the targeted audience of this revolver...it offers a competitive advantage

Chambering it in 9mm gives an advantage in both loading (speed, simplicity) and ejection (reliability) over a similar power load in .38 spl
 
HKGuns said:
I see no point in shooting an auto loader cartridge in a revolver. How does it make any sense to shoot 9mm in a revolver other than for the mistake of thinking you're only going to own "one caliber?" Every auto loader cartridge is a compromise in some way to allow for proper feeding and ejection.
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Because 9mm factory ammo is much cheaper than any revolver ammo.
 
My wife an I "carry only one caliber". I have a semi-auto that she can not successfully operate the slide. She has a revolver. What is the problem here?

A 9mm is a very reasonable defense round. Better that a 38. Can get into .357 general effective territory if you want the recoil and blast. And it is generally cheaper. If you avoid the ones needing to have fixed loaders, it is not so bad. A little quirky, I concede; but not bad. I believe for the average CCW person, what is in the gun is what you got. Reloading, regardless of the weapon, is fairly unlikely. It would interesting to get numbers on how many CCW people actually carry reloads. And those that got into a fight and reloaded. By the time you carry a weapon (particularly pocket carry), change, keys (2 of those huge electronic car keys and a dozen others), a flashlight, a wallet, pocket knife, it is getting a little messy. You may not have people point and say "he's got a gun". But you may get people pointing and yelling "he just shoplifted at a hardware store".

I have said this before: why are there people out there that just seem to hate the idea that 9mm revolvers exist? If some of us find them useful (for whatever reason we decide; and it is up to us to decide), why does that seem to remove skin from your nose. Simple solution to the mental problem; don't buy one. You could also boycott stores that sell them. And petition Congress (should they ever wake up and/or can agree to anything useful [or not]) to ban 9mm revolvers.

And I promise not to laugh at your .357 or .44 snubbie in your belt/pocket. That 50 cal for flint lock, maybe.
 
not sure if this has been covered or not but i saw a new S&W wheelgun in 9mm on some coverage for Shot Show. wish i could recall what show. it was on outdoor channel..but that doesnt narrow it down much. I think it was Shooting USA
 
It doesn't remove skin from my nose, grind my gears, or make me lose any sleep that they exist (although with a general assumption driven statement like that, one could easily become a politician, seriously though imagine Obama or someone else saying "anyone who gives negative thought to the 9mm revolver wishes the eradication of it" it fits) :neener: :rolleyes:. I do not care if they exist let alone petition congress to get rid of them (unlike gun laws). The OP asked why they haven't taken off, and peoples' opinions on them. Just because I, or anyone else states that they do not have a place for one in my/their home does not mean I/they wish their eradication, and to say that individuals are hinting at that point from their negative feedback of the idea is not only ludicrous, but emotionally based in bias. We (the people who are saying why they are not popular) are the reason they are not popular and are just stating why... most are not bashing those who own or want one, we are simply stating that we the majority of revolver owners do not want/need an auto cased revolver, for the reasons specified, and in this instance with us being the majority it has made the creation and selling of these a limited market... and for that side affect I am truly sorry :(. I hate to see any design that people like get limited or put out of commission, variety is the spice of gun owning, but to start getting angry when we answer the question at hand and you (the rimless revolverists) trying to rationalize why we (the traditional revolverists) and marketers are stupid is neither here nor there with the original post. If you all want a 9mm revolver get together and start posting (or petitioning, sorry had to say it) on manufacturers pages so they know the want is out there and big enough (It does miracles such as a Ruger 10/22 takedown), because telling us (the traditional revolverists) that we are stupid and crazy for not wanting one and for answering the OPs question is not getting any closer to your goal. Sorry for my rant. :D
 
Ammo carry problems

I own and compete with S&W 625's and carry a J frame in 38 spl. I have wanted a 9MM revolver to carry until I had a good discussion with another revolver shooter.
Moonclips require a dedicated belt carry to protect them from getting bent or having stray items from tangling up with the rounds.
The diameter of a loaded moon clip is more then a pistol magazine.
Revolver speed loaders are almost as fast as a moon clip, but there not subject to getting bent like a loose moon clip in a pocket.
Many are happy with the simple and slow speed strip due to its size and shape.
The new N frame 9mm is a great competition gun. I'd like one.
In a J frame there really little terminal differance between a 9mm and the various 38+p.
The lack of moon clipped revolvers shows me that its not a perfect solution for a carry gun.
 
moonclips do not have to be a dedicated belt carry. i carried two 9mm moon clips inside of each other in the pocket watch of dungarees for many years and they never failed to function. the same two by the way. still have them.
 
Im the OP. I shot my 905 again today. I still like it. Recoil is sharp, but the revolver shoots easily to Point Of Aim at 10 yards, and I see no down side to the Moon Clips.

With my 686...

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Even though I have no want for one, it is a good looking revolver... maybe, just maybe if they had one in 357 sig hmm. :uhoh:
 
My wife likes revolvers (specifically "black with black grips") so I got her a good one, S&W 386 Nightguard. It has 7 rds and manageable recoil (with 135g +P 38sp Gold Dots). If 9mm was an option, I would have gotten that instead, same or better terminal performance as the 38 +P, faster and easier reloads with short cartridges in a moon clip.
 
Speed loaders are way slower than moon clips. Watch Jerry Miculek's moon clip reload video and you'll see that for yourself that Jerry prefers moon clips. Moon clips in 9mms and 45 ACPs are functionally superior to speed loaders used in traditional revolver calibers, end of story.
 
Given that 9mm revolvers aren't popular, the reasons offered for why they aren't popular trump the reasons offered why they should be popular.
 
alternety said:
My wife an I "carry only one caliber".
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I tried that. ;) It all started with 9mm... then 357 magnum/38 special, then 357 sig, and then 22lr. I couldn't stop, I found too many different needs and different ways I needed to carry and not any of the one could do all the jobs I needed (unless I could afford the Glock 33, It could do all of them except the pocket 22). I only wanted one (that was more of a boundary statement, not the truth). Don't even get me started on rifles, after I promised myself (with fingers crossed) to only have one cartridge, 22lr excluded of course it doesn't count towards the limit because it takes up almost no room and everyone should already have one, or two, or... well you get the point. :D
 
The first test of that exotic G2 RIP had a failure to feed.

I know the video shows them blasting out of a G18, but the YouTube tester had a failure to feed in the first 10 rounds.

So if you really have your heart set on something like that, you should probably get a 9mm revolver to shoot it.

Just sayin...
 
natman said:
Given that 9mm revolvers aren't popular, the reasons offered for why they aren't popular trump the reasons offered why they should be popular.
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And that pretty much sums it all up. If there was a market for the product big enough to justify the production we'd have more options to choose from. But the market place chose to ignore 9mm revolvers when the companies introduced them so the companies stopped making them.

Kudos to S&W for trying one more time. Perhaps the makeup of the market has shifted far enough that the whole idea will catch on this time. Lots of folks with 9mm semis that want to try a wheelgun might just make the difference this time.
 
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I'd love to have a 9mm revolver but the one I want (S&W 547) is expensive.
Not Python or K-32 expensive, but still expensive.
 
natman said:
Given that 9mm revolvers aren't popular, the reasons offered for why they aren't popular trump the reasons offered why they should be popular.
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Given that Corvette convertibles aren't popular (as only a miniscule market segment has ever caused production by Chevrolette) any reasons offered for why they ARE popular trump any reason why they should NOT be popular.


"I think, therefore I am." I don't think irrationally, therefore I am not."
 
There seems to be a tendency to equate 9mm revolver with a clip of some sort.

Just a reminder, Charter Arms has the Pitbull in 9mm and .40. No clips.
 
Rarebird said:
Given that Corvette convertibles aren't popular (as only a miniscule market segment has ever caused production by Chevrolette) any reasons offered for why they ARE popular trump any reason why they should NOT be popular.


"I think, therefore I am." I don't think irrationally, therefore I am not."
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It's certainly hard to argue with reasoning like that.
 
Rarebird said:
Given that Corvette convertibles aren't popular (as only a miniscule market segment has ever caused production by Chevrolette) any reasons offered for why they ARE popular trump any reason why they should NOT be popular.


"I think, therefore I am." I don't think irrationally, therefore I am not."
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I'm confused... you warp my signature to comment soley on another persons comment alone while not making any sense with the warped meaning anyway. :confused:

Notwithstanding, cars are a completely different market altogether. An individual lays down way more money on a corvette than you do a 9mm revolver, although if the smiths get any more expensive my comment may be false. I would also assume as many people or more owned or own a corvette than a 9mm revolver therefor making more money. A gun manufaturer spends amost the same money designing a firearm as a car manufacturer does a car, different r&d granted, but still far more r&d than most realize. A gun manufacturer if not selling losses their arse more on a non selling gun than a car anyway because of supply and demand, the the afermentioned r&d to price ratio difference, and the fact that more people that own cars than people who own firearms so sales are easier to accomplish naturaly with cars.

The corvette with covertable top, even though few are sold compared to other models made by Chevy, make enough money to keep creating them period; if not they would not be made. The sales of corvettes with conv compared to other Chevy corvettes is not anywhere equal or comparable to sales of 9mm revolvers and cannot be compared as chevy is one manufacturer making a corvette, and 9mm revolvers in general have many manufacturers. Also more corvettes with conv have been sold than 9mm revolvers anyway, the two cannot accurately be compared that way and using that comparison is biased based on not having equal grounding stats, manufacturing data, or market (sorry for the geek sounding math words, I just took an advanced statistics class in college and biased comparisons were beat into my head).Taurus has shown somewhat of an increase so they continue to sell them, trust me they do not do it to see the smiles on a few faces, if they don't make money they stop selling it; smith on the other hand I personally do not see keeping that variation of 9mm revolver very long. The revolver smith offers while bad@$$ (and im not really keen on the 9mm revolver but those smiths are sweet) is way beyond the reach of average joe unlike the simple and humble taurus. So unless plenty of people decide to dish out the dough for a competition 9mm revolver it won't be worth it to them to keep it, but I could be wrong... I have been quite a few times before.
 
I've owned two, an SP101 and a S&W 940-1. Other than the novelty of it, I could not figure out any advantage to the 9mm. This was after multiple range sessions with the chrono. Finally concluded there was no advantage to CCW a steel J frame with 5 rounds of 9mm when for the same weight I could carry a small semi-auto in 9mm, if I wanted to. I currently own six J-frame revolvers, but none of them are 9mm. To each his own.
 
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