Why aren't electronic/magnified sights standard on guns?

[Inebriated]

"...you also may have tried them incorrectly..."

I have Aimpoint red dots in my box BTW.

Look I don't care if the whole world goes to red dots, I've tried them and I won't be using them again. And those who go down the road of assumptions then act as if they didn't can just assume this - I don't care what you think. I can shoot just fine without red dot sights. I'm not suggesting everyone follow my lead but I know that irons can do things well if you know how to use them. And I've even used more than one design. How do you guys think shooters got along without red dots? If they work for you that's great. But I see a lot of rifles without them and without magnified scopes too. Poor fools.

There is a right and a wrong way to use a red dot, I'm asking how you use it. That's hardly treating you like a moron or making an assumption. In fact, it's the exact opposite of making an assumption! I'm sorry if questioning your technique is damaging to your ego.

And shooters get along fine without red dots, it is YOU who is acting like they're a crutch for bad skill, and you are also spreading misinformation about them.

 

[pretzelxx]

What red dot sight(s) do you have experience with?

I've used the m68 aimpoint and an eotech of some sort. I forgot the model, the one with two double a batteries. I just am not a fan of the aimpoint. Oh, and I used a trijicon reflex thing with tritium and a fiber optic of some sort to capture the light to "glow" a dot. That one just didn't have enough of a bright dot to see during the day for me. The 68 didn't have a wide enough view angle, so for me pointing the sights were faster in a life or death quick fire scenario. Other than those three, I don't have any further experience.

 

[josiewales]

Price
Reliability
Price

This.

 

[Sam1911]

And selection. Really, again, who wants the rifle manufacturer to dictate what kind of scope or sight you end up with? Too many great and different choices out there.

Look at the original AUG. Groundbreaking, except that folks became increasingly fed up with the factory built-in optic. Pretty soon they moved to the A3 version which lets each user, or department, or army make the decision of what kind of optic will work for them best.

 

[LeonCarr]

Why aren't they standard?

1. Most of the reputable electronic sights are stupid expensive.

2. Since they are stupid expensive being standard would make the gun cost twice as much or more.

3. Most of them run on batteries. Except for a flashlight/weaponlight to identify friend or foe, I personally have a hard time trusting my life to something that runs on batteries. Yes some like the Aimpoints have a 50,000 hour advertised battery life, but battery-free iron sights last forever if you know how to use a silicone cloth or oil.

4. Some of the red dots sights on the market are just flat out junk. Unless they say Aimpoint, EOTech, Leupold, or Trijicon on them I will not trust my life to them.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

 

[Warp]

I've used the m68 aimpoint and an eotech of some sort. I forgot the model, the one with two double a batteries. I just am not a fan of the aimpoint. Oh, and I used a trijicon reflex thing with tritium and a fiber optic of some sort to capture the light to "glow" a dot. That one just didn't have enough of a bright dot to see during the day for me. The 68 didn't have a wide enough view angle, so for me pointing the sights were faster in a life or death quick fire scenario. Other than those three, I don't have any further experience.

If you use a red dot the way it is intended you have an unlimited and unrestricted field of view/view angle. You don't look through the optic. Well, you do, but...you don't.

In my experience when people complain about the field of view offered by a red dot or holo sight, they don't understand how to most efficiently and effectively use them.

 

[Skribs]

Unless you're comparing one RDS to another, I agree with you, warp. A good reflex or RDS you dont have to be perfectly lined up to hit the target. With irons or a scope, you do. I dont understand how it is harder to line up a red dot than it is irons. Then again, I dont do shotgun games, I'm more a paper puncher.

 

[pretzelxx]

Guess I just threw it up to my shoulder bad and had it too far to the rear or something haha. I just took it off the last time I had one on. Maybe I'll practice a bit the next field exercise...

 

[Warp]

Guess I just threw it up to my shoulder bad and had it too far to the rear or something haha. I just took it off the last time I had one on. Maybe I'll practice a bit the next field exercise...

Both eyes open. Focus on the target. The dot super imposes over the target.

You can get down into position and take careful aim focusing on the dot as well, but that's not the intended use. The intended use is quick/fast acquisition with both eyes open, BAC (bindon aiming concept).

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