jerkface11
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The only unfair part is that you are legally required to have a middle man.
I understand that we need our local guys to do the FFL transfer, but when there is something he flat out does not have that I want, it's not fair that I am hit with a $25-50 transfer fee and the shipping.
I think you are confusing your definitions, I don't consider a big box store a LGS. A real local gun store will havea lot of odd ball stuff that has been on the shelf for years when you need it. They will have good information to help you make decisions concerning loads, accessories, and cleaning supplies. The big box stores will have someone who knows nothing about anything except that they may make a bonus if they sell you something.....
My local gunstore is owned by a crotchety old geezer (same age as I am) who has been gunsmithing for a long time and knows what he is talking about. He does not have time to worry about pleasantries and he does not tolerate BS from internet know it all's who tell him that they can buy it cheaper online, but instead just asks them why the heck they are in his store if they already know where to buy it. I love the place......
Just remember, guys, you can't really buy a gun off the internet in your own person.
You must have a FFL to take delivery and register it to you, and he isn't going to stay in business long if all you want him to do is the paperwork on the mailorder $40 AR lower for which you bought a truckload of way kewl tackytickle Legogun parts from a stranger in Kalamazoo.
Not to mention the support he feels when you complain about the $25 "transfer fee" on such a small order just because it is burdened by a serial number.
The only unfair part is that you are legally required to have a middle man.
Not unfair - get your own FFL then.
Yep. Shotgun News and Sportsman's Guide have been around a long time. When mail order sales of ammo were made legal with the FOPA of 1986, having all that ammo shipped to your door (especially cases of 22, that were always a gray area under the 68 GCA) was sweet. Ammo prices just crashed for a decade and did not start to recover until recently.It's not about the brick and mortar stores shopping for accessories, and never has been.
Dial the way back machine about 30 years - before many of the posters in this thread were of legal age to buy firearms - and you discover mail order catalogs.
They were the hostile "internet" of their day. Those darn catalog warehouses were sniping sales from brick and mortar all the time. One warehouse, no retail storefront, just busy workers processing orders.
The knowledgeable who shop for a specific accessory know they can input the data, make a decision, then go to a source they trust. Cabelas, Bass Pro, Gander, and dozens of others were in those days and did a huge business.
All they have done since is to put the catalog on web pages. They still publish paper but not even a quarter of the volume they used to.
Built an AR lately? The best brick and mortar supplier locally is Academy, stocking Magpul and MFT. BUT - not any of the stuff I want. I order from the internet. I have yet to see any local brick and mortar stores with a A2 flash hider on the shelf, much less a Levang, STD, or Black River Tactical.
LGS brick and mortar never had it all and never will. They make their sales on the mass market stuff that always looks like what the other guy bought on impulse because he won't research it and can't wait.
There's too much stuff on the market and always has been. Brick and mortar carry one or two Brands with the top spot competing model items and that's it. They can't and won't ever carry it all.
You have to go to a national level warehouse to get that - and they've been in operation for decades, long before the internet.
Except for a few local exceptions (and NFA items) there is no registration of firearms
Really? What do you think the forms you fill out at the gun store are? And the dealer's "bound book" listing all his acquisitions and disposals?
You may say there is no national CENTRAL registration... if you believe that the "background check" record is deleted as it is supposed to be (which I am very suspicious of) but that is just a matter of time.
The last time I bought a rifle the 4473 was on a computer screen and I filled it out and submitted it via that computer. I'm sure it was all "secure", eh...?
The problem of arguing that there is no "registration" of ownership through the 4473 form is the tracing of firearms used in a crime back to where they were purchased or to a previous owner. Yes, there are holes in the path if the weapon has been passed by theft or face to face sale but there is still a traceable path of that firearm. That may not technically be "registration" but it performs an identical function. Maybe you should keep your tinfoil in your pocket just in case reality breaks out......
You write your information down on a paper and give it up you might as well have registered yourself as a gun owner.
It's not tin foil hat it's just stupid simple lowlife common sense.
I am not reassured and most people are not foolish enough to be.
I think you're correct - or at least I'm lucky enough to have two stores close to me that are excellent.I think a lot of you guys go to the wrong gun store.
A few years back, someone brought in a Marlin lever action rifle they bought at Walmart - the dealer showed him around 10 things where they had "cheaped out" to meet Walmart's price demands, and the dealer had the identical gun in the rack (sans cheap / left out parts) for less than they guy paid at Walmart.
I'm sure this guy's picture is now in the dictionary as a description of "buyer's remorse".
I don't have to give up my name and what I purchased to buy common stuff in the store. I can just pay cash and get a reciept all of which is none the government's business.
All the double talk boo beee goo gaash is not going the change the fact that the government is sticking it's nose into business that is not theirs.
Their is no way that I am going to swallow anyones koolaid about how the government is going to use the utmost discrection with their powers and not keep records of what ever they can get their hands on.
Telling people otherwise is just not truthful.