Why can't I ever get this lucky?

[berettaprofessor]

UPS delivers a 50 cal rifle and all the trimmings (scope, etc) to the wrong home...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/16/ups-mixup-sends-rifle-to-family-expecting-toy.html

At least the story gets it right and describes it as a semi-auto and not an "assault rifle".

"Lucky" of course, is a matter of interpretation. Somebody will be in big trouble here since it was delivered to Long Island!

 

[Squire Western]

That was quite a mistake. 110 miles from Oceanside to Monticello. Since it's a long gun there should be no problems for anyone.

Embarrassing for UPS though.

 

[nipprdog]

At least the story gets it right and describes it as a semi-auto and not an "assault rifle".

They didn't get it right. It was a bolt action rifle.

http://bearingarms.com/jenn-j/2016/...vers-gun-associated-press-delivers-fake-news/

This one got it wrong;

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...sault-rifle-not-toy-for-grandchild-1.12765386

 

[AZAndy]

My employer stopped using UPS to deliver paychecks after a batch wound up in Florida instead of Arizona. Considering the volume they handle, it's surprising that there aren't more such mistakes.

If such a thing showed up on my porch, I'd be sorely tempted!

 

[JT-AR-MG42]

This during the mid 80s.
Was at a class 3 dealers shop/business when his neighbor stopped by with a
Springfield Armory rifle box (the box at the time had graphics of a Marine type
guy with a rifle on the outside of the box).

The shipping label and end label clearly denoted that it was an M-14 automatic rifle.

UPS had delivered it to the neighbor, as the dealer was not home at the time.
Reason for the story is that the neighbor thought it was pretty cool to be handed a machine gun
when he was a convicted felon!

JT

 

[Taurus 617 CCW]

At first glance it looked like a Barrett M99 but upon closer inspection it is actually a Barrett M95. Hardly an "assault rifle". The only thing it has in common with an AR type rifle is that it is black and comes with the same A2 style grip. I wish the media prized themselves on accurate reporting rather than blasting hype all over the airwaves.

 

[tomturkey]

The USPS sent a letter to a town 40 miles away from me in Michigan. It went from there to some place in New York state. Finaly almost two weeks later I received it in MY mail box. It had the correct zip code on it from the start.

 

[barnbwt]

Considering the volume they handle, it's surprising that there aren't more such mistakes.

You mean considering the widespread incompetence and corruption (isn't UPS the carrier that seems to have a strangely high number of 'lost' firearms & firearms accessories in transit?)

You saw it here, folks, a five-shot scoped bolt action is now an "assault rifle" (and let's not even pretend these people know the difference between a 50BMG and a 22LR)

TCB

 

[jeepnik]

Any delivery service can make mistakes. People are involved. But, the biggest difference between the USPS and UPS is that if you pay of expedited delivery and they screw up, USPS will not refund the additional charges for the expedited delivery, UPS will.

 

[tomturkey]

They just busted a UPS Christmas rush employee for theft in Muskegon Mi. Included in this thievery were cell phones and diamond rings.

 

[Speedo66]

A package was just delivered to my address a few days ago, right address, wrong person who does not live here. I call the company on the return address, and they want me to give them personal information. No, here's the deal: you have the address, come pick it up, it'll be on the porch. Took them 3 days to get their act together and retrieve it.

I theoretically could have kept it, but figured it might be someone's Christmas present.

 

[CapnMac]

I am not up to speed on the NY SAFE--didn't it ban .50bmg in any format? Or am I thinking of CT?

This also brings up the throny issue of that you are not obligated to returrn things that wer delivered to you by mistake

 

[rskent]

This also brings up the throny issue of that you are not obligated to returrn things that wer delivered to you by mistake

You don’t really believe that, do you?

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

I am not up to speed on the NY SAFE--didn't it ban .50bmg in any format? Or am I thinking of CT?

This also brings up the throny issue of that you are not obligated to returrn things that wer delivered to you by mistake

Try explaining that to the feds over a firearm transfer.

 

[CapnMac]

Try explaining that to the feds over a firearm transfer.

That's just it. A reasonably skilled barrister might contend that the delivery was a gift, which is quite a different form of "transfer." Maybe. Perhaps.

But, this is also the essence of why we have a court system. The legislature creates a law to protect he public (you can't be sent a valuable thing, then dunned for any amount); and another rule to protect the public (by way of the somewhat specious requirement to sell through federally licensed dealers). Which then creates a conflict for the average citizen.

Jow Q Citizen gets a box, unsolicited. They open the box to see what is within. They have a reasonable expectation that such a common reaction would not be a felony (were they a prohibited person, for example). But the standing laws, the 10-25,000 burdening every citizen, are not clear on which action to take. If the neighbor's Granny Frannie sends a fruitcake and it's mis-delivered, should the recipients shun the box for fear it might be ammunition or contraband?

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

Yeah...but the pretext to a gift is usually that it comes from someone you know.

Figure the odds in this case.

I wouldn't want to go to court with those odds.

 

[Havok7416]

That's just it. A reasonably skilled barrister might contend that the delivery was a gift, which is quite a different form of "transfer." Maybe. Perhaps.

But, this is also the essence of why we have a court system. The legislature creates a law to protect he public (you can't be sent a valuable thing, then dunned for any amount); and another rule to protect the public (by way of the somewhat specious requirement to sell through federally licensed dealers). Which then creates a conflict for the average citizen.

Jow Q Citizen gets a box, unsolicited. They open the box to see what is within. They have a reasonable expectation that such a common reaction would not be a felony (were they a prohibited person, for example). But the standing laws, the 10-25,000 burdening every citizen, are not clear on which action to take. If the neighbor's Granny Frannie sends a fruitcake and it's mis-delivered, should the recipients shun the box for fear it might be ammunition or contraband?

You are then assuming also that the package is addressed to them which I find hard to believe considering in this case it went to the wrong address. Not to mention firearms still have to be transferred if coming from out of state (and even in state in certain areas).

 

[H&R Glock]

That story is so full of crap. Yeah sure a "KEYBOARD SIZED BOX' containing a 50 caliber rifle. Get real. The box may have contained an AR upper, but you ain't gonna get a rifle into a keyboard box! Then someone forgot that there was a signature required when shipping guns. It sounds like a story that a typical anti gun zealot would dream up.
If my LAR 50BMG rifle would fit into a keyboard box, I could carry it concealed!

 

[Carl N. Brown]

^ A box for a fullsize electronic musical keyboard (check out the music video of Edgar Winter paying one, or the one-man Mariachi band in Desperado) can be as big as a rifle box
Yamaha P45
Height 6"
Width 52.25"
Depth 11.5"
Weight 25.35 lbs.

But the only thing you can play with a .50 BMG Rifle is the 1812 Overture finale.

 

[VA27]

Think 'electric piano' not 'computer keyboard'.

 

[CapnMac]

Also, "signature required" also depends on whether or not the delivery driver realizes that requirement, or is not over-busy delivering stuff. Lots of "signature required" items are left on neighbor's steps, or in front of the front door. Sometimes, they have the doormat draped over them.

 

[gojuice101]

Also, "signature required" also depends on whether or not the delivery driver realizes that requirement, or is not over-busy delivering stuff. Lots of "signature required" items are left on neighbor's steps, or in front of the front door. Sometimes, they have the doormat draped over them.

Very true. I've had a terrible time with my stuff getting delivered to the wrong house (including the only 458 SOCOM bolt I could find at the time), and delivery drivers leaving important items (such as crates of ammo) on the side of the road at the end of the driveway where I can't see it. I started requesting delivery confirmation and signature on everything that was shipped to me, thinking that it would ensure I got my packages and keep them from getting left on the road where they could easily be taken. It didn't. Several packages that required a signature were still left right at the end of the driveway (or stuck right beside the mailbox). I haven't had a problem recently, thankfully, but it was bad for a while.

At least on the last C&R guns I ordered the delivery driver not only verified that I was an adult, but that I was actually the intended recipient. Definitely don't want those getting delivered to the wrong place.