Why on earth do MSR type guns not come like this?

[SamT1]

every time I buy a new one the first thing I do is throw the flash hider or muzzle brake in the trash and put a thread protector on it. When you shoot out the pickup window it’s not too bad on the ears. An inch or so shorter too! I would think manufacturers would want to save the dollar too.

 

[.455_Hunter]

Because it's not tacticool and doesn't promote operator play.

 

[SamT1]

Because it's not tacticool and doesn't promote operator play.

I’d argue real operators don’t have time for ear plugs And not being able to hear will get you killed (or wife will hate you for “ignoring” her. ). But I’m just a dumb redneck.

 

[AK103K]

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every time I buy a new one the first thing I do is throw the flash hider or muzzle brake in the trash and put a thread protector on it. When you shoot out the pickup window it’s not too bad on the ears. An inch or so shorter too! I would think manufacturers would want to save the dollar too.

Way I look at it, you paid for it twice when you threw it out.

Hey, whatever. I take mine off too, and then put one on that runs around $100, unless I can find them on sale. No flash what so ever with the new one, and if I choose, with a couple of twists, in a couple of seconds, no muzzle blast either.

Oh, and you can sell those old FH's on eBay too. People on there buy anything.

 

[mshootnit]

The A2 hider makes a hell of a muzzle protector

 

[SamT1]

The A2 hider makes a hell of a muzzle protector

Yea and you need ears on to shoot the thing.

 

[Obturation]

I would think manufacturers would want to save the dollar too.

You pay for it, like it or not when you buy it.
Most people just leave the flash hides in there and never touch it again, for that type of person , they're just happy to have cause it looks so cool to them.

 

[AK103K]

Yea and you need ears on to shoot the thing.

FH or thread protector, you still need hearing protection.

 

[Riomouse911]

I’m a YHM Phantom fan myself... mainly because it works really well at keeping flash minimized on my shorter barrelled AR’s. . The second benefit is when one was pinned on my 14.5” barrel it is now legal without the SBR hoopla.


Different strokes for different folks.

Stay safe.

 

[CapnMac]

In some cases, you need the FH to make the barrel legal length, too.

Yea and you need ears on to shoot the thing.

3200fps is Mach 2.8 with or without, that thread protector is not going to be a lot quieter than a FH.
Than a muzzle break, that's different. MB is directing gas, and sound impulse back at you.

 

[mcb]

None of my guns with threaded muzzles are still wearing a thread protector. A few have flash-hiders/brakes of some type most of them have a 51T suppressor mounts of one type or another. A suppressor is nice on the ears, nice on the shoulder, and keeps you from setting the interior of the truck on fire when shoot through the passenger window from the drivers seat.

 

[entropy]

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every time I buy a new one the first thing I do is throw the flash hider or muzzle brake in the trash and put a thread protector on it. When you shoot out the pickup window it’s not too bad on the ears. An inch or so shorter too! I would think manufacturers would want to save the dollar too.

That and shooting 'out the pickup window' is illegal in many states.

I’d argue real operators don’t have time for ear plugs And not being able to hear will get you killed (or wife will hate you for “ignoring” her. ). But I’m just a dumb redneck.

Nor are you a real operator. (I'm not either.) They have sophisticated comms that block gunfire enough so they can hear their team, yet are sensitive enough so team member in close contact can whisper and be heard.

 

[CraigC]

IMHO, flash hiders are great thread/crown protectors and I don't hear a noise difference. Now a muzzle brake, that's a different story.

Not sure the point of all the "tacticool/operator" chatter but whatever.

 

[mcb]

That and shooting 'out the pickup window' is illegal in many states.

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It's not the shooting from the truck that is illegal it's the shooting from/on a public right of way that is. If you're in the middle of a field you own you can shoot out of your truck all you want.

 

[Steel Horse Rider]

Muzzle "Brakes" are there to minimize recoil. Muzzle "Breaks" is what happens when you use your rifle as a pry bar......

 

[SamT1]

An A2 flash hider is noticeably louder than a normal muzzle. Especially out the window of a pickup.

I can’t grab hearing protection every time I see a varmint. Doesn’t work like that in the real world.

muzzle flash has absolutely never been an issue in any civilian situation I’ve been in besides using a night vision. And even that was with a flash hider. (16” 308) suppressor keeps that solved.

why would a 223 ever need a brake. (The one in the picture came with a brake)

 

[BigBlue 94]

Didn't pay for it once or twice on this AA 50Beowulf upper. No muzzle threads at all! Though a brake would be nice sometimes on it.

 

[earlthegoat2]

Im with you most of the time. I dont have much use for threaded barrels no matter what type of gun they are on generally. I usually dont do muzzle devices unless it is more convenient to just use it such as with ARs.

My 450 Bushmaster Ruger American Ranch came with the protector and not a muzzle device. It was a non-catalog item and that was apparently how it was speced buy the distributor. I was happy about it.

 

[MOPanfisher]

I shot my AR out the window one time. That smoking hot case may still be banging around in the cab somewhere.

 

[brasscollector]

That's how most of my barrels are equipped. I do have some flash hiders and a brake (or two) but I prefer the simple thread protector most of the time.

Funny how my friend who hates the 'crack' of a 223 seemed to get the rifle with the brake on it when he borrowed one .

 

[entropy]

It's not the shooting from the truck that is illegal it's the shooting from/on a public right of way that is. If you're in the middle of a field you own you can shoot out of your truck all you want.

Not in WI and MN, unless you have a permit to do so from the DNR, issued to disabled hunters only.

 

[MistWolf]

An A2 flash hider is noticeably louder than a normal muzzle...

Not in my experience!

 

[marksman13]

I’d argue real operators don’t have time for ear plugs And not being able to hear will get you killed (or wife will hate you for “ignoring” her. ). But I’m just a dumb redneck.

There’s not enough difference to save your ears. Give me a good brake over a thread protector any day of the week.

 

[mcb]

Not in WI and MN, unless you have a permit to do so from the DNR, issued to disabled hunters only.

For hunting yes, but if you want to target shoot from your tuck I would bet that is legal.

 

[LoonWulf]

For hunting yes, but if you want to target shoot from your tuck I would bet that is legal.

I need to check the regs again but I don't believe you can even have a loaded gun in your truck here lol



ARs without something on the muzzle look funny. I ran my 458 socom without a break or flash hider just so is shorter, That's pretty much the only one.