Why on earth do MSR type guns not come like this?

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I need to check the regs again but I don't believe you can even have a loaded gun in your truck here lol



ARs without something on the muzzle look funny. I ran my 458 socom without a break or flash hider just so is shorter, That's pretty much the only one.

Even on private property? On a public road right of way that makes sense but I would have serious issues if I can't have a loaded rifle in my truck on my own private land. I ford the creek onto my hunting land, strap on the Model 10 and throw a magazine in the 300 BO and leave it on the seat beside me.

And I agree an AR without something on the muzzle looks sort of strange I spent all deer season look at my very strange AR, my only one without something up there, but its not threaded (yet).
 
To digress, we forget why most firearms are threaded.
Don't remember the bill no, but there was a bill in line to be brought to the Senate floor, to legalize suppressors without the restrictions that were and are in place.
Manufacturers were gearing up for this to be an OTC accessory.
Then Sandy Hook happened.
End of story.
 
Even on private property? On a public road right of way that makes sense but I would have serious issues if I can't have a loaded rifle in my truck on my own private land. I ford the creek onto my hunting land, strap on the Model 10 and throw a magazine in the 300 BO and leave it on the seat beside me.

And I agree an AR without something on the muzzle looks sort of strange I spent all deer season look at my very strange AR, my only one without something up there, but its not threaded (yet).
Im not positive about private land, tho i think "hunting" rules apply the same as public.... honestly never really had reason to find out.....
 
My buddy can shoot from his truck hunting, and even drive it on public hunting land (use the DNR two tracks).
Handicap permit allows for it.
 
To digress, we forget why most firearms are threaded.
Don't remember the bill no, but there was a bill in line to be brought to the Senate floor, to legalize suppressors without the restrictions that were and are in place.
Manufacturers were gearing up for this to be an OTC accessory.
Then Sandy Hook happened.
End of story.

In the context of AR-15 you have to go back further, nearly all AR-15 were threaded at the muzzle until the 1994 AWB was passed. The a threaded muzzle became one of the "evil" features of an "assault weapon." So the potential passing of the HPA might have made threaded muzzles more desirable/marketable again but in the context of the AR it was just bringing us back to were we began. All but one of my AR is threaded at the muzzle and the one that is not is a real odd duck.

Im not positive about private land, tho i think "hunting" rules apply the same as public.... honestly never really had reason to find out.....

In Tennessee (were I do most of my hunting) you can hunt on private land from a motor vehicle (streel legal or not, motor running or not) so long as it stationary. It is perfectly legal to transport a loaded firearm on private land in a vehicle. Back in Ohio were I grew up you had to have a disability permit to hunt from a stationary UTV/ATV/tractor but it was still legal to transport a loaded firearm in a vehicle on your private property.
 
Non handicapped, no vehicle allowed.
We shot off the hoods and roofs of cars for groundhogs, parked the old Impala and Buick under a shade tree near the pasture on one farm.
Got us up over the fence too.
But we were not sitting in the vehicle and it was parked, not running and no keys in ignition.
It was not used as a motorized critter chaser.
It was used as a shooting bench.
Have had a couple COs way back say we couldn't do that. But we never got a ticket.

Buddy bough a JD combine and driving it backfrom prev owners farm, had a humped RR crossing. It went over and back wheels came up. Picker touched down and it bounced and hopped to side a bit. .30-30 and .410 slugs plus .22 rf ammo flipped out of the seam around cab roof.

Hmmmmm.

And a possum cop thinks us shooting chucks is an issue.
 
I think shooting from a vehicle is legal in more places than people think.


I can’t grab hearing protection every time I see a varmint. Doesn’t work like that in the real world.
It does if you want to be able to hear as an old man. I sure as hell wish I'd grabbed it more often when I was younger.


why would a 223 ever need a brake.
For reducing the recoil to nothing, for shooting fast.
 
Even on private property? On a public road right of way that makes sense but I would have serious issues if I can't have a loaded rifle in my truck on my own private land.
Don't move to WI or MN then. In WI you can have a pistol loaded in a vehicle if you have a CCW. But not a rifle. This is why I own an AR pistol. And yes, it applies to your own land, (though not your domicile.) Ironically, you can legally walk down the street in WI with a loaded rifle on your shoulder, but you cannot transport same in your motor vehicle. On ATV's you can.
 
Only thing I am qualified to "operate" is a telephone. My military days are WAY behind me and I wasn't very high speed/low drag then either. Don't care. I keep the OEM on the firearm, and I don't have any issues. Not doing drive bys shooting out a truck window either. If I am shooting out of a moving vehicle window it will be with my CCW sidearm and things have gotten WAY out of hand.
 
More folks want threaded barrels on AR’s than those that don’t. Especially in today’s market, a surefire way to ensure your brand’s AR will NOT sell would be to stick a non-threaded barrel out front.

To the side-bar discussion, which seems to have more traction than the actual point of the thread, in KS, unless prohibited by local municipalities, we can carry loaded firearms in the vehicle, hunting or otherwise, and can fire from even public roadways as long as we have permission on the adjacent land, as the property line ends at the middle of the road. The only technical exception are state and interstate highways, as the roadway and easement are owned by the state, and the secretary of treasury (the legal owner) does not issue permission for shooting or hunting on their property... Big game cannot be hunted from a motor vehicle, but nothing prohibits hunting coyotes or pleasure shooting from a vehicle. Equally, non-hunting activities on private property have no obligation to roadway law, nor do officers have authority to trespass to attempt to enforce such. Effectively, pulling over and sending a round after a coyote from the road is regular practice, and legal in KS - as long as you are shooting from the correct side of the road and onto property for which you have permission to hunt. Running coyotes with dogs and trucks is also common practice on private lands - for which it is, again, legal to fire from the vehicle.
 
every time I buy a new one the first thing I do is throw the flash hider or muzzle brake in the trash and put a thread protector on it. When you shoot out the pickup window it’s not too bad on the ears. An inch or so shorter too! I would think manufacturers would want to save the dollar too.
It is possible that the $ difference between a thread protector or a FH is negligible to the manufacturer. Some suppressors like the Gemtech HALO mount directly to the standard A1 or A2 FH.
 
every time I buy a new one the first thing I do is throw the flash hider or muzzle brake in the trash and put a thread protector on it. When you shoot out the pickup window it’s not too bad on the ears.

If it’s not broke or something I might use even for a trade, I don’t throw it away.

Best way I know to shoot from inside a vehicle with a rifle is a SBR and a suppressor.
 
I’d argue real operators don’t have time for ear plugs And not being able to hear will get you killed (or wife will hate you for “ignoring” her. ). But I’m just a dumb redneck.
Patently untrue. Sometimes it happens, but that is the least preferred method, and part of the reason I can't hear. Otherwise, Peltor COM-TAC headsets are in standard use in the military community, and have been for some time. If you look at my avatar, you can see I'm wearing a set of them. And during the rare occasions "outside the wire" when I was able to sleep, I actually inserted foam earplugs. I learned this lesson after being woke up by a 50 caliber alarm clock directly over my head one night.
 
How come a hamburger comes with lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, onions and mustard and you have to tell them if you just want hamburger meat and a bun but it still costs the same while saving them money?
 
In Texas you can shoot varmints out of a moving helicopter. The Wardons frown on you shooting off the highway. They may give you a pass off a dirt road to dispatch a predator. I’m not sure about deer, I feed my corn to beef to eat.

I’m all for the threads I need them. I just don’t think the coyotes are looking for my flash to return fire.
 
It's a lot easier/cheaper to take the flash hider off and replace it with a thread protector than to go the other way. Trust me, the rifles won't sell any cheaper if they come with only a thread protector. This is a non-issue, it is easy enough for anyone to have it either way they want.
 
why would a 223 ever need a brake. (The one in the picture came with a brake)

I find one to be a useful accessory when working up a new load. I can watch the bullet hole appear in the target, something I can't do without the brake. Then I remove the brake and install a 3" bloop tube.
 
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