Why the hate on the flying brass?

[mgmorden]

There are several sides to this, all of which remind me that I am very blessed to be able to shoot on my own land...at least until someone sells the real estate 1/2 mile behind my backstop for urbanization.

Not sure if NC might have a similar law, but in SC there is a specific law (something to the effect of "Range Preservation Act") that states that once a piece of land has been used for 5 years as a shooting range, it can no longer be forced to close due to noise complaints or proximity to other's property. Might be worth checking into. If there is such a law, you might sell a membership to a friend for $5 so that there is some documentation that you were using it as a range at a specific date.

 

[ForumSurfer]

Not sure if NC might have a similar law, but in SC there is a specific law (something to the effect of "Range Preservation Act") that states that once a piece of land has been used for 5 years as a shooting range, it can no longer be forced to close due to noise complaints or proximity to other's property. Might be worth checking into. If there is such a law, you might sell a membership to a friend for $5 so that there is some documentation that you were using it as a range at a specific date.

Thanks for the heads up. Under current zoning, I can do as I wish. I only have one neighbor who complains, and not very often. The rest of my "neighbors" have some sort of range set up as I always hear them shooting on days that I am shooting. But if the one spot that is 1/2 mile to one mile directly behind my berm isn't mine and is currently woodland. If it were to be developed for homes, I couldn't continue shooting in good conscious.

 

[JohnBT]

"Why does anyone who asks "Hey, what's the big deal?""...

You refuse to see the obvious. A lot of people don't like their stuff hit by other people's stuff. Snowballs, empty hulls, cigarette butts, tobacco juice, boogers, gravel from spinning tires, whatever. It's simple. Just because somebody thinks it shouldn't matter doesn't mean it doesn't matter. It obviously does matter to a lot of folks.

If I'm shooting a $2500 Cooper or my late father's Python and somebody sets up next to me and pelts me with brass I will say something and then move. If I'm shooting an FNP-45, well, who cares, it's a cheap plastic gun.

John

 

[we are not amused]

So whats the problem with hot brass?

 

[Ally]

Hot brass doesn't seem to bother me, when it's coming from someone's gun in a lane next to me; I choose to believe he/she's not doing it on purpose. What I don't like is my OWN hot brass, flying out of my Glock and right back at me. More than once it's hit me in the face. That I don't like.

 

[jerkface11]

If I'm shooting a $2500 Cooper or my late father's Python and somebody sets up next to me and pelts me with brass I will say something and then move. If I'm shooting an FNP-45, well, who cares, it's a cheap plastic gun

So if I show up with my AR15 and the only bench open is to your left I shouldn't shoot?

 

[JohnBT]

Let me finish the 5-shot mag I'm shooting so I have a chance to get out of the way before the brass starts bouncing off the benches, posts and ceiling. See, that's being considerate. It's easy.

John

 

[jojo200517]

I try to not pelt people when I shoot my semi auto's.

As far as brass hitting someone elses fancy gun I have never experienced that complaint, i'm not shooting any semi auto .50bmg or 20mm vulcan so I don't believe my brass from my AK or .45 is ejecting with enough force or mass to actually scratch your gun. If your afraid of this you may want to leave your fancy toys at home in the safe or display case, they probably weren't ment to be shot anyway. You always have the option to go to another range or offer to swap spots with me, i'll be glad to swap spots.

I try my very best to not rain down brass or steel on anyone, its a real wowzer the first time ya catch a .308 down the back of ya shirt.

I have actually got dirty looks and a comment from a guy that was shooting a bolt action 22 a couple spots to my left for shooting "fast and loud" when I was shooting my AK on the far right position at the range. I had shot 2 10 round mags in a period of probably 5-6 minutes.

My range has no restrictions on mag capacity or rapid fire other than it must be aimed and since I was in the position I was in and my empty's were piling up on the small bank beside me and not on anyone I felt obliged to pull out both drum mags and a couple more 30 rounders and place them on the shooting beng and attach the bipod. By the time I got the bipod attached and played the childish game of pretend machine gunner on my target with the first drum he had stopped shooting and was giving me some really nasty looks.

While I was letting it cool down a bit a couple muzzle loader shooters to his left let go and he had had enough of the loudness and started packing up to leave. He mentioned something to the range officer about the muzzle loaders being too loud and it was suggested that he invest in better hearing protection.

 

[Hong Kong]

I have a brass catcher I set up that attaches to any bench. I made it from stainless tubing tig welded, that slips into a larger diameter stainless sleeves welded to large C clamps. It looks like a miniature soccer goal. I made it to keep my brass from hitting the concrete and so It's bagged ready for the tumbler at the end of the day; but that being said I welcome all the hot flying brass i can get. Flying right into my brass catcher. I definitely like to set up directly to the right of the high volume group of guys. I don't know call me greedy.

 

[BlackMagic308]

I shrug it off when nets aren't available and the range is full up, and just toss something over my guns to shield them and hope for no more scars in my cleavage from brass (I've got plenty) or hope to not need to do the hot brass, shove a hand in my bra dance, which is embarrassing after the fact. But I've had people who refused a net brought over to them by range staff and just seemed to enjoy plunking people in the head with their brass (complete with full out laughs). I know which of my guns blow brass out and in which direction. I always put up a net or get to the lane where the wall is to my right if there are others present and I've got one or all of those guns with me.

But you can never please all the people all the time. I regularly get the hairy eyeball from guys with 22s who don't like the sound of my old military surplus bolt rifles, and have had a few walk over to tell me I needed to stop shooting until they left. There's not much you can do about that.

 

[jerkface11]

have had a few walk over to tell me I needed to stop shooting until they left. There's not much you can do about that.

"Oh I'm sorry my .223 AR15 is too loud for you. I'll just switch to the .25WSSM upper."

 

[CornCod]

Getting hit with brass is really just a part of the range experience. If I percieve that I might be annoying someone with it I will move. I worry that men are getting...shall we say... a little effete. I also worry about those guys who sweat the ammonia smell of Wolf ammo. If I were to go into harms way, I would prefer to do so with colleagues that didn't mind getting hit with brass at the range!

 

[we are not amused]

Some solutions, to the problem of "cleavage".

 

[oldfool]

welcome to THR, Blackmagic 308
too few ladies on this forum, we could use more of the balance perspective

 

[CraigC]

I don't believe my brass from my AK or .45 is ejecting with enough force or mass to actually scratch your gun.

You would be wrong. Been there, done that.

IMHO, it's no different from those inconsiderate folks who open their car door into another vehicle. As if it's "okay" because it's a parking lot.

 

[W.E.G.]

I've got a CETME that will hit you with a piece of brass so hard that the case mouth will cut a plug out of your scalp.

 

[JohnBT]

"so I don't believe my brass from my AK or .45 is ejecting with enough force or mass to actually scratch your gun."

Believe what you like. You'll find out one day. What's wrong with giving people a minute or two to get out of your way?

Toys? Boy, I don't own no toys. I'm now into genuine army surplus; Swiss Army surplus. It's boringly accurate and reliable for a 40-year-old gun. The factory standard was a group 5 cm (1.97") or less at 50 meters (almost 55 yards.)

www.topgunsupply.com/sig-p210-swiss-army.html

 

[youngda9]

 

[Hong Kong]

That is hilarious.

 

[Loosedhorse]

Flying brass ain't the worst thing

I was in an EMPTY public range using a FAL when a guy comes up, takes the bench immediately to my right--and then begins to complain that I'm showering him with brass. I shook my head and a moved position to the left.

He then proceeds to take a a black-powder rifle, let's off what I can only assume was his own brew of powder, grass-clippings, and toxic waste--BOOM! With enough black smoke to scare a volcano. And of course, I'm down-wind. Cough.

Sometimes, you just have to pack up and leave. And there are a lot of ways to be discourteous on a pulbic range. (At least this guy didn't point anything "unloaded" at me.)

 

[W.E.G.]

That guy seems to be a brass magnet.

 

[J.A.D.]

My PSL ejects brass, and I kid you not, about 20 feet. A friend of mine were shooting, and we went to pick up our brass, and his were about 7 feet away while mine were half way down the concourse. I'm making an aftermarket brass catcher for my rifle. If you have a PSL, and have a similar problem, let me know. If I make one, I'll make many.

 

[jerkface11]

I had a witness 10mm that would throw brass 40 feet.

 

[BlackMagic308]

That's why I like my Swiss K31... It plunks the rounds up and back, so it all collects in the small of my back on my shirt and doesn't bother anyone.

 

[BlackMagic308]

@ OldFool: Oh, I'm sure I'll tick someone off eventually. LOL!