Why the hate on the XD's?

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There is no rational or logical reason for the hate. My XD-9 has never missed a beat, is one of the most accurate guns I own. I used to own a Glock and it never missed a beat either. But the XD won out for me. It's a good gun made substantially better with a Powder River trigger kit.
 
I don't hate them. But I dont' reccomend them to people.

Extremely high bore axis.

Almost impossible to replace the stock sights.

Grip safety can and has malfunctioned which can only be fixed by shipping the gun off to be worked on.

I used to have 3. Sold them all and run M&Ps mainly now with a couple Glocks mixed in.
 
Thanks yall. This is why I post here because I will always get responses no matter what. I saw someone say a lot of people are m&p crazy right now and those people are the only ones I see putting down the XD's. I'm sure it's not only S&W people but anyway I honestly love the Glock and consider myself very adapt to weapons safety but I just don't know if I can get over carrying it without an external safety and I just don't like the m&p's. I would love to get an HK but sadly cannot put that much money into it (i'm a student) and if I don't buy a handgun soon I won't be able to for a long long time. So I have no idea what i'm getting yet but i'll let yall know when I do buy. Thanks again!
 
HK is good but in my opinion not worth the money. It offers nothing over a Glock or M&P and costs considerably more. You can get an M&P, Glock, or XD for under 500.
 
Dude, just go to the range and shoot as many different types of guns as you can afford to. You might find out you don't even like the tupperware pistols ;)
 
The only thing i do not like with the Xd is that Glock is better. Glock is simple only 2 controls. Slide lock and magazine release. Reliability is unquestionable. The trigger reset of Glock is very short so you'll be able to shoot multiple times fast. No grip safety to fool around. The tenifer finish and the barrel quality of glock is awesome.

So it's not much hate in Xd i think. There's just so happen that there's a better choice. Because there's Glock.

For me the best handgun in form and function at whatever cost, are custom 1911's and Glock. And history supports.
 
Glocks must be better. Rap musicians are always singing about them. You never hear them singing about other brands of guns.:neener:
 
Usually the hate portion of an XD is a Glockaholic trying to tell you how much better a Glock is and for a lot of people that is a bunch of BS...
 
The only thing i do not like with the Xd is that Glock is better. Glock is simple only 2 controls. Slide lock and magazine release. Reliability is unquestionable. The trigger reset of Glock is very short so you'll be able to shoot multiple times fast. No grip safety to fool around. The tenifer finish and the barrel quality of glock is awesome.

So it's not much hate in Xd i think. There's just so happen that there's a better choice. Because there's Glock.

For me the best handgun in form and function at whatever cost, are custom 1911's and Glock. And history supports.
If the barrel quality is so superb, then why does seemingly everyone spend $100 on a Lone Wolf so they can 1) shoot unjacketed lead bullets, and 2) improve the chamber support on the .40 caliber models?

Just playing devil's advocate here. ;)

I think there is nothing wrong with the Glock barrel as long as you are aware of the polygonal rifling. But to say it is superior to the XD or M&P is a bit much. I consider them on equal footing in that area. I do prefer the Glock finish on the steel parts over the XD
 
I had a 4" xd .40 and it was a great gun. My only complaints where that the sights were different from what I was used to and took some time to get used to getting good accuracy. My second complaint was that the gun was too loud even with ear plugs (the model I had was a ported model). I know that was not the fault of the pistol in any way it just made me not enjoy shooting it which is the point of having it. I would not hesitate to buy a 5" 9mm xd if I found one for the right price.
 
I own an XDM9, with 4,600 documented rounds through it. I have experienced 8 failures, all failures to eject and all usually after the gun had about 500 cast bullet handloads through it without cleaning or oiling.

I owned a Glock, which had a higher percentage of failures. I have friends who own Glocks and the reliability rate seems to be comparable to my XDM. I know some people with Glocks with over 1,000 rounds and no failures; others experience the occasional FTE. I can say the same for the XD.

I shoot Glocks well but I like the XD for the following reasons:

-it is cheaper than comparable Glock models
-it has a well-supported, conventionally rifled barrel
-it has metal sights that don't break off like stock Glock sights
-it has a very well-designed grip safety
-I prefer the trigger pull (opinion)
-I perfer the ergonomics (opinion)
-compact models come with extended magazines and compact mags
-there is a free 3 mag promotion on all new XDs now
-it has an ambidextrous mag release
-it has a slide release I can actually use
-reliability and accuracy are just as good as comparable Glock models
-XDs have not been subject to the same "product upgrades" (i.e. RECALLS) as have Glock models
-frame and rails actually feel sturdy, not flimsy (opinion)
-it has a loaded chamber indicator that you can actually see and feel
-it has a striker cocking status indicator that can be seen and felt
-.460 Rowland conversion availible for .45 models. It is not availible for the Glock, which indicates to me that the Glock is a weaker design.
-it has front cocking serrations standard
-it is availible with a SS slide
-it has a finish on the slide that does not feel like a non-stick frying pan
-cocking serrations feel better to me (opinion)

Reasons to go with a Glock:
-slightly lighter and more compact
-mags are cheaper (not counting SA promos)
-you can rebuild the entire gun yourself
-LE/Military promo offers will get you a gun for the same price as an XD
-availible in two more calibers than the XD (.380 and 10mm. XDs were briefly offered in the now defunct .45 GAP)
-slightly lower bore axis
-it has a few 22 LR conversions availible (which some consider to be a moot point, given that they usually cost more than a dedicated .22 LR pistol, but I'm trying to cover all bases)

The next reasons apply only to competition:
-Glock models are availible factory ported and with slide cutouts for competition
-Glock sponsors shooting matches wherein you can only use their guns

I've heard Glock owners say that they don't like the XD because of the grip safety, as though it somehow reaquires the adoption of a new manual of arms. The MOA for both guns is equally simple; pick up the gun and pull the trigger. Only the field stripping is slightly different, and is no more complicated with the XD.

The Glock is not a bad handgun. For me though, there is nothing a Glock can do that an XD can't do better and for less money.
 
I've heard Glock owners say that they don't like the XD because of the grip safety, as though it somehow reaquires the adoption of a new manual of arms.
I've had grip safeties on M1911s not be properly depressed in bullseye matches.

I don't need the grip safety, so seeing as how it's not optional, I'll stick with the Glock.

And police surplus 2nd Generation Glocks are MUCH cheaper than new Springfields or Glocks. I don't like finger grooves and won't EVER put a light on a handgun, so I'm getting what I want, cheaper.
 
The M1911 is a completely different gun with its own fan club and series of problems. I have never seen an XD not fire because of the grip safety. I don't recall reading about it either.

That's like saying all polymer guns are bad because you owned a Taurus with a polymer frame that cracked on you. It's not an inherent design flaw; the flaw lies in the execution of the deisgn.
 
without having read all the thread and i soon will....
gotta agree with all above. i shot a lot also. XD seemed fine. ballistically, i mean, no diff.
butr i gotta go glock. if you are gonna go tupperware, do it right. XD IS a knockoff.
fine weapon, but a knock off.
however, as i learned, and others have said on this thread. shoot them all.
whichever one "feels" right? theres your gun.
thats how i found the ubitious G17.
 
south, that is very valid concern, as to pistols.
personally, i hate external safetys. the glock, in that respect is perfect for me.
i train with it often, and its as much instinct now, to not put my finger on the trigger as to not.
that is me. its also why i never carry chambered.
to each his own. carrying a deadly pencil, is a thing that required thought.
my respect to you all.

-G
 
Reliability is unquestionable. The trigger reset of Glock is very short so you'll be able to shoot multiple times fast. No grip safety to fool around. The tenifer finish and the barrel quality of glock is awesome.

So it's not much hate in Xd i think. There's just so happen that there's a better choice. Because there's Glock.

For me the best handgun in form and function at whatever cost, are custom 1911's and Glock. And history supports.

I suggest easing up on hyperbolic terms like "unquestionable".

There's never been a perfectly reliable machine made. I saw four separate Glocks jam at my last Steel Showdown match, one brand new, all firing factory ammo. Let me assure you, their owners were asking plenty of questions.
 
i have an xd service model with over 18,500rds through it, i couldn't be happier with it. It is accurate, and reliable, there is nothing else i could really want and or ask for in a defense handgun.
 
i have had my xd45 tactical for over 4 years now. never had a problem with it. only had one round that wouldnt fire. it also wouldnt fire in 2 other 45s. one xd and one taurus 1911.

i have shot over 500 and 800 plus rounds through with no cleaning(2 separate outings to the range). total rounds is over 3,000. recoil spring may need to be replaced as it is easier to pull slide back then a new xd.

a coworker is a die hard 1911 guy. he cant say a good thing about anything else. owns several from kimber, wilson combat to name the ones i know of. until he shot my xd. he now has a xd 40 compact as his conceal carry gun.

i am planning on buying the xd 45 compact for my conceal carry gun.
 
The M1911 is a completely different gun with its own fan club and series of problems. I have never seen an XD not fire because of the grip safety. I don't recall reading about it either.

That's like saying all polymer guns are bad because you owned a Taurus with a polymer frame that cracked on you. It's not an inherent design flaw; the flaw lies in the execution of the deisgn.
One MORE time:

I don't need OR want the grip safety. Hence, there's absolutely no reason for me to spend significantly more money to get a gun with one.

The XDs seem to be decent guns. There's just no reason for ME to get one, since it offers ZERO advantage over the Glocks I carry.

I'm not trying to talk anybody out of getting an XD. I'm stating why there's no reason for ME to buy one.
 
Now that all the B.S. and good advise has been posted, just remember :

1. It's your <edit> you are going to be protecting so get what you trust.
2. You may find in the future your needs change. Just because you choose Brand X now doesn't mean you can't change to Brand Y or Z in the future.
3. Opinions are like you-know-whats. Everybody has one.
4. Try to learn the difference between solid, reasonable advise and the blathering of the Gun Shop Commandos.

By becoming a gun owner, you have chosen to take on a very adult responsibility. Good luck.
 
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According to M4Carbine.net all the guns I own are junk. I own 2 XDs and an M&P. The XD45 is my favorite.
yeah tell me about it, especially since alot of the big names in the training industry are making the switch and or have been using the m&p's for a while now.
 
I like my XDm in 9 very much, and have about 1000 rounds through it with zero malfunctions. It's fast becoming a favorite.
 
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