Wow, you sold some 22LR for more than you paid for it. Self aggrandizing congratulations, but you are crowing about selling some ammo at an alleged profit while exclaiming that everyone should keep buying because prices will only go up... It all rings pretty hollow pal.
Why you should continue to buy ammo
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cheesebigot
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It's not like he forced the buyers into purchasing his ammunition. He sold at a price he thought people would buy and...lo and behold...people bought. Perhaps it was not the price YOU might have paid, but we are not all on the same footing.
I didn't exploit anyone
In fact, offered it at prices below what any dealer was selling it for. When I did sell it to a dealer, I sold it to the guy who had the cheapest prices. He couldn't put it out fast enough. It was literally being sold for about 30% more than I sold it to him for, while I was standing there. There was very little of it available and this was a large gun show. So no, I didn't exploit anyone. If you don't like what I do, get off your <deleted> butt at zero dark thirty and stand in line and sell it for what you paid for it to some other lazy so and so who values their sleep more than having ammo on hand.
In fact, offered it at prices below what any dealer was selling it for. When I did sell it to a dealer, I sold it to the guy who had the cheapest prices. He couldn't put it out fast enough. It was literally being sold for about 30% more than I sold it to him for, while I was standing there. There was very little of it available and this was a large gun show. So no, I didn't exploit anyone. If you don't like what I do, get off your <deleted> butt at zero dark thirty and stand in line and sell it for what you paid for it to some other lazy so and so who values their sleep more than having ammo on hand.
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TanklessPro
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How is it on the backs of other shooters, when he rolled it back into shooting supplies?
22-rimfire
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Don't forget the business license... 
But I know CZ223, you're a hobbyist just like selling a firearm you have that has been collecting dust.
But I know CZ223, you're a hobbyist just like selling a firearm you have that has been collecting dust.Queen_of_Thunder
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22-rimfire
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Queen, I don't mean to pick, but I didn't condemn anyone including CZ223. Calm down. Easy there. Time to head to Walmart.
Queen_of_Thunder
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He sold 6,000 rounds at 10 cents a round. In todays market that is more than a fair price to pay for something that is scarce. Checking gunbot this morning I saw CCI mini mag 40gr going for 45 cents a round. Thats $45 per hundred. The cheapest ammo listed was 12 cents a round and he sold his for 10 cents a round. A price below the market value of his ammo. So actually he shortchanged himself and you condem him for it. Sheesh!
TanklessPro
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Maybe I should sell my +8000 rounds of CCI mini mags.....
I don't even count the stuff that's not mini mag.
Queen_of_Thunder
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There is no reason to try and justify your actions as you did nothing wrong. In fact the very people calling you names and attacking you for your actions would or have done the very same thing. There was only one Mother Theresa and she died a long time ago.LOL I don't believe in entitlements either.
You are both wrong.
Consumers don't help a darned thing, unless they are PAYERS. We can "consume" that food or ammo by burning it, tossing it in the ocean, or giving it to the starving 3rd world. What is needed,is traders. People who are able to generate things of value, which they convert into currency, with which they buy whatever we sell. If they cannot produce value, we can't let them have our products, because we cant take losses on our goods/services. At least, we cannot do so for very long. To make the 3rd world capable of becoming productive will take population reduction, lots of investment, education, and the creation of a real regard for individual rights, to include property rights.
Consumers don't help a darned thing, unless they are PAYERS. We can "consume" that food or ammo by burning it, tossing it in the ocean, or giving it to the starving 3rd world. What is needed,is traders. People who are able to generate things of value, which they convert into currency, with which they buy whatever we sell. If they cannot produce value, we can't let them have our products, because we cant take losses on our goods/services. At least, we cannot do so for very long. To make the 3rd world capable of becoming productive will take population reduction, lots of investment, education, and the creation of a real regard for individual rights, to include property rights.
Queen_of_Thunder
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If you can find buyers go for it. At that price I could afford that BT100 I want.Maybe I should sell my +8000 rounds of CCI mini mags.....
I don't even count the stuff that's not mini mag.
Barter
But as you said..."certain circles". The majority of the population will not accept bitcoin or .22lr as payment in exchange for goods/services
danez71
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Yea... that what human trafficers like to call them selves too.
If you REALLY think there's nothing wrong with it.. Man up!! Own up to the correct term instead of trying to sugar coat it.
Why do people insist on re-terming things in order to fit their personal agenda?
When liberals do it, everyone here calls out the lunacy of it. Liberals say "income equality" and everyone here calls it "redistributing wealth".
When people start re-terming things its most often used to stretch logic to fit a particular agenda. Kind of like "Manual firing inhibiting thumb lever". Call it what it is.
If a person cant make a sound case using the real terms its most likely because there isn't a sound case to be made.
'Scalper' is a derogatory name? Huh... Maybe that's why the OP likes the term 'commodity trader' better.
"Commodities" in the business world are typically homogeneous hard assets. In the business world, they are typically grouped in three major categories: agriculture, energy and metals.
The word "commodities" used in regular vocabulary basically means anything of value.
If people are going to talk in the business sense, they should at least know the definitions of the words they use in the context they are using them in.
There you go. Someone with some clarity.
Hey look... someone else with some clarity.
Whats with all these threads of overly simplified armchair economic lessons and re-definitions of words?
Cant we get back to topics with more prudent issues like:
Manual firing inhibitor thumb levers vs non Mmnual firing inhibitor thumb levers "(AKA , thumb safety or not)?
9mm vs 45?
AK vs AR?
Glock vs everything else?
22-rimfire
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This buy sell thng is what I did 20 years ago at shows for the fun of it. I would probably be buying bulk packs today and re-selling them at shows hoping to buy something else with the proceeds (profits). The theory is to eventually be buying firearms or whatever from the profits and not tying up new money. Didn't work for me.... buy today, sell two months later and make $25-$50 and buy two firearms.....
Queen, for the life of me I can't find the "entitled" word use in your previous statements, but I would swear that I read it prior to posting. Guess I should have quoted it. If it is my mistake, I apologize. The edit button is useful especially if done quickly leaving no tracks for us regular members.
Queen, for the life of me I can't find the "entitled" word use in your previous statements, but I would swear that I read it prior to posting. Guess I should have quoted it. If it is my mistake, I apologize. The edit button is useful especially if done quickly leaving no tracks for us regular members.
Well, not actually retailing the "product", cause to retail an item various govt. agencies become integral, such as IRS and state and local taxing authorities.
BullSlinger
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A Rose by any other name.
CZ, yes you are now a scalper. I will give you credit for having the guts to make the original post.
True no one forced people to buy from you, and no one forced you to take advantage of desperate people seeking 22lr. I can understand as I am trying to figure out where I am gonna get some to take my granddaughter out shooting. The two bricks I purchased a couple of years ago are long gone.
I have seen posts of folks who have 30,000 rounds set back including pictures. Makes me sick cuz there are a lot of people with doing it and it all adds to an artificial shortage.
CZ, yes you are now a scalper. I will give you credit for having the guts to make the original post.
True no one forced people to buy from you, and no one forced you to take advantage of desperate people seeking 22lr. I can understand as I am trying to figure out where I am gonna get some to take my granddaughter out shooting. The two bricks I purchased a couple of years ago are long gone.
I have seen posts of folks who have 30,000 rounds set back including pictures. Makes me sick cuz there are a lot of people with doing it and it all adds to an artificial shortage.
22-rimfire
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Bullslinger, I'm guilty of being one of those "folks" you mention. Heck, that's only 6 (not three) cases. But I bought all of it prior to November 2012 (in some cases prior to the previous ammunition panic). Been saying this in these ammo threads off and on. I just can't replace the stuff these days. None is for sale.
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