Will prices be higher on November 5th?

[myrockfight]

Pray that we don't get Democrats in two branches of the govt. If we get screwed in the executive as we are in the legislative, it will only be a matter of time in the judicial after the appointment of leftist judges.

They already have blocked a common sense measure to open up drilling which would kill the speculators who are long in oil futures. Just the threat of drilling opening up would kill the price of oil.

Anyways, back to the gun issue. Personally, I don't think it will make a big difference in the short term if you avoid those who are gouging and taking advantage of the chicken littles (as stated above). With that said, you can go out and buy AR lowers, for example, for a lot cheaper than the whole rifle. That way, if something did happen along the lines of a new AWB you would be covered by being grandfathered in with your Pre-ban rifles which you could add anything to.

That is my take on the situation anyway - not that I am an expert in legislative issues or the collecting and investment in guns.

 

[Autolycus]

I am actually praying that we don't get Republicans in any branches of government. They will appoint Neo-Con judges who will try to take our freedoms away.

 

[ilbob]

Let's say McCain wins on Nov 4th... will prices fall?

depends on how long the riots last.

i think what happens at the conventions will dictate how long the riots last. by some reports (if you call them that) there may be as many as 100,000 demonstrators in Denver for the convention. there is a potential for things to get out of hand very quickly if LE is unable to control early problems without making them worse. a lot of these demonstrators are anarchists and professional troublemakers, and have a fair amount of experience in this kind of thing (think economic summits X 100).

some weird reports like people are storing up urine to throw at police. like thousands of gallons. if they can get the cops pissed enough, they can get a full scale riot going, which is what they are really after.

by one account I saw, the plans for Denver include a roe that only the mayor of Denver can allow the use of tear gas. i can imagine how well that is going to work in an extremely dynamic situation like a burgeoning riot.

 

[Kino74]

If Obama gets in and from the polls I have been seeing its looking his way so far, expect higher prices on assault weapons and hi cap mags. He's not gonig to mess with hunters and handguns. Its more likely he will walk out saying no one needs an assault weapon for self defense or sport and no one needs anything more than 10 round magazines. Doesn't the POTUS still sign the Presiden'ts 100 award at Camp Perry?

Of course being treated like a messiah by CNN and MSNBC, they willl all applaud his "common sense regulation" and support of the 2A.

As and NFA owner and assault weapons owner, I expect to be thrown under the bus...again.

 

[22-rimfire]

I am actually praying that we don't get Republicans in any branches of government. They will appoint Neo-Con judges who will try to take our freedoms away.

Guess diverse opinions is what makes the USA so great. What about the Heller decisions and the Neo-cons?

 

[Soybomb]

With that said, you can go out and buy AR lowers, for example, for a lot cheaper than the whole rifle. That way, if something did happen along the lines of a new AWB you would be covered by being grandfathered in with your Pre-ban rifles which you could add anything to.

Among the many assumptions required for this is that a new ban would be the same the old ban. Under the last ban these actions wouldn't have been legal.

 

[VegasOPM]

I think that there will be a bubble after the 5th if Obama gets the nod. Folks will freak out for a while and buy up everything with a detachable magazine. As soon as we start pulling out of Iraq, the prices on military ammo will plummet. Every major player in ammo has been going 110% trying to keep enough .223, .308 and 9mm heading into the sandbox. The minute that the troops and equipment start heading home, that vein dries up and they will want to dump it to avoid sitting on it until someone else starts a war. The raw materials costs are kind of a wild card.

 

[SCKimberFan]

The sky is falling!!!

The sky is falling!!!

 

[CHEVELLE427]

i think the point to buying up some items of interesse is,

If you want an affordable so called assault rifle, there not going to be any cheeper then they are now.
REGARDLESS WHAT D.A GETS THE PRIZE.

and if you want a high cap mag they will not be this cheep again for at least 5-10 years.
remember when the junk 10/22 30rd mags went for $100. now there $9.00, AR's WENT FROM $350 TO $2500, NOW BACK TO $550.00 (cheapest i have see)

All is good if you have some spare parts or what not. dont need a container load of SKS but 2-3 wont hurt the collection,

If they get grandfathered in.
NOTHING IS A FOR SURE THING NOW DAYS.:banghead:

 

[guntotinguy]

but i really dont expect TEOTWAWKI. But I am trying to stock up on reloadable Ammo

Whether its 'fear buying' or not,its still better 'having than not having'.I think availability with price will be an issue by Nov.5th...I also think folks are buying now 'just in case',I know I am and a few good friends are as well.

 

[Leanwolf]

OLDSKOOLFAN - "I am actually praying that we don't get Republicans in any branches of government. They will appoint Neo-Con judges who will try to take our freedoms away."

Oldskoolfan, you mean like the evil "neo-con" Supreme Court judges who upheld the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution, "Heller," when the wonderful, oh-so-compassionate left wing libs you obviously adore and worship, voted to destroy the Constitution??

How about giving us some examples of when your wonderful left wing Democrat paleolibs have ever NOT wanted to eventually confiscate the firearms of the worker peasants. Every anti-gun bill coming out of the Federal, State, and local legislatures comes from your great heroes, the Marxist Socialist Fascist inspired Democrats.

L.W.

 

[Cannonball888]

I never bought a generator in preparation for Y2K.

 

[luft97]

You should stock up either way. Food, Guns, Ammo, and Gold/Silver. You can't ever have enough.

 

[22-rimfire]

Buy as you can afford things. The price will continue to go up. Why would it go down? Minimum wage just went up this week. Oil has come down some however. I hope that oil prices stabilize around $100 a barrel (or less) and there is less inflationary pressure on goods and services.

I didn't buy a generator either. But I did make sure I had a kerosene heater and fuel just in case to suppliment my gas heat.

Is the question really what will happen to firearm prices (particularly EBR's) if there is a change in the GOP along with their personal politics??? We know what Obama would like to do unless he changes his mind this week. Whether or not he can do it is another matter.

 

[sanglant]

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at least he's honest

 

[RP88]

yes, they will be higher, because there so many people out there who keeping thinking that the president controls the entire law-making process.

What I'm afraid of is if the so-called pro-gun Democrats are going to turn out to not be pro-gun and go with the democratic bandwagon should Obama win.

 

[ilbob]

As soon as we start pulling out of Iraq, the prices on military ammo will plummet.

This may be counterintuitive but my guess is if Obama wins the election there will not be anyone pulling out of Iraq in any numbers at all.

He can play to the radical left with his silliness about pulling out, but there are enough adults in the party that if he actually was serious about it, the adults would explain reality to him in no uncertain terms. at least i hope there are enough adults left in his party to do that. I mean really. Every year there is a supplemental appropriation to pay for Iraq. if the Democrats were serious about leaving, all they have to do is vote no. the fact that they don't, and there are no more than a few handful of congress critters that vote against it, tells you that they know the real score, and the real score is that the US has to stay in the middle east for the foreseeable future.

The bad thing is I expect he would be an LBJ type of president, micromanaging every op for minimal political impact while trying to convince the radical left base of the party he was doing what he could to pull out. That will inevitably lead to a bigger mess, and a loss of some of the huge gains we have had the last couple of years in Iraq.

Its entirely possible that a McCain victory could (but no sure thing) lead to a significant reduction in US troops in the area. Its like what happened when Reagan took over from Carter. The Iranians could not give the hostages back fast enough. They knew Carter was toothless and Reagan wasn't, and the difference in "tooth power" between McCain and Obama is much greater, even though McCain is no Reagan.

 

[Starship1st]

I say avoid the panic buying and buy now!

 

[Ala Dan]

'Bama can't do it by himself, as he will have too solicit members of Congress
in order to build his case against us gun owner's~! I don't think the election
will adversely affect the price of ammunition immediately. But, that is just
my $.02 worth~!

 

[Slotback]

Demand is up.
Supplies are down.

Prices are up. And I don't see the situation improving either. And that stinks.

 

[ilbob]

Demand is up.
Supplies are down.

True of a lot of things. There is a huge unmet demand in India and China for many of the raw materials that go into ammo. The only thing good is that the amount of these materials used in making ammo is very low by comparison to other uses.

 

[RevolvingCylinder]

I think that there will be a bubble after the 5th if Obama gets the nod. Folks will freak out for a while and buy up everything with a detachable magazine. As soon as we start pulling out of Iraq, the prices on military ammo will plummet. Every major player in ammo has been going 110% trying to keep enough .223, .308 and 9mm heading into the sandbox. The minute that the troops and equipment start heading home, that vein dries up and they will want to dump it to avoid sitting on it until someone else starts a war. The raw materials costs are kind of a wild card.

This is another example of an American that forgot that his fellow countrymen are still fighting in Afghanistan on his behalf.. No wonder many have started calling our actions in Afghanistan the "forgotten war". If we are forced to leave Iraq prematurely(which I don't see happening regardless), the action will be that much more intense in Afghanistan as terror groups including AQ, and those affiliated with Iran will have themselves a victory and have that much more drive to try to take Afghanistan too. And not "every major player in ammo" is supplying ammo to the armed forces. That is very untrue. There are relatively few ammo manufacturers with contracts with the US Armed Forces.

 

[N1150X]

I never bought a generator in preparation for Y2K.

I didn't stock up on anything for that because the reason behind Y2K was dumb. Computers would think it was the year 0, know they were not suppose to be around and turn off that doesn't make any sense at all. However, someone telling you they will ban your guns if they get elected for whatever reason is a good enough reason to stock up IMO

 

[ilbob]

I didn't stock up on anything for that because the reason behind Y2K was dumb. Computers would think it was the year 0, know they were not suppose to be around and turn off that doesn't make any sense at all.

You just don't know how close it was. I don't think there would have been nuclear power meltdowns and such, but without the tens or hundreds of billions of dollars that was spent to fix the problem, it could well have been a really serious problem.

Ironically, the one thing that probably saved us in the whole thing was that Bill Clinton never understood the seriousness of the situation and thus never made it a mission of government to "fix" the problem. If he had, it is nearly a certainty that the outcome would have been a disaster. As it was, people went and did what they had to do to fix it and things worked out OK.

 

[BoilerUP]

Obama will have FAR more pressing concerns as a newly elected President (Iraq, Iran, economy, etc) than making it a talking point to take our guns away.

The real question should be this - will Congress, with an even larger Democratic majority, try to get an AWB passed in the first year of an Obama presidency?