Will the 1911 suffer, and the Wondernine rule, after the AWB dies?

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I think that the 1911 is here to stay, as has been said, there are a ton of companies making it, and a lot of the people that really know their firearms use that platform.

That being said, the ergonomics of the 1911 stink for me. When I extend my arm with one, it is always pointing down. I could probably train and eliminate that, but why would I want to, when one of those "chunky wondernines with terrible ergonomics" (Glock 17) fits me perfectly, much better than a 1911, and points better for me than any other gun? I'm also far more accurate with it than I am with any 1911 (and, yes, I've fired a great many of them), regardless of it's "crappy DA trigger".

Especially in the gun community, it's different strokes for different folks. The 1911 isn't going to be dead anytime soon, just like wheelguns aren't either. There will always be a market for the guns that fit people best. For some, that may be a 1911, for others, that may be a wondernine, or a wheelgun, or something else.
 
I think the people who carry 1911's do so because thats just what they liked. They like the slim grip, single action, and nice crisp trigger. There are da/sa .45s out there many of them with 10 round capacities. I dont see 1911 enthusiasts picking them up either. Personally, im not a "1911 guy" so i will enjoy being able to find affordable hicaps after the sunset (hopefully).
 
I think that when the AWB expires that most people will just stay with what works best for them.

Some will experiment. Perhaps the high cap .45s will prosper a bit. But most people will stay with what works.

After all a 15 round Kel-Tec kinda defeats the purpose. :D
 
The way almost every gun company and his brother are starting to produce 1911s (who haven't in the past) in recent history, I seriously doubt it.
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Ron,
My thoughts exactly. I take it as a bad sign that the AW ban isn't going to sunset when 2 major players (Smith and SIG) jump into an already saturated market like the 1911.

Matter of fact, I might start buying up a bunch of 10 round magazines (for my Wonder9's) in addition to the standard capacity ones. Call me overly pessamistic, but I read this that something like a 5 round limit is on it's way.
 
I think the reason the S&W & SIG have come out with a 1911 style pistol has nothing to do with the AWB.
I feel that they are just taking a page from the PC playbook. No matter what brand name is on your PC if you want the latest biggest hard drive all you have to do is install it. Same with CD-ROM drives and DVD drives.

Since most 1911 owners change something on their pistol it only makes sense to make yours compatable. This way when someone comes up with something better than the upswept-beavertail-hammerpocklet-grip safety it will still fit on their pistol.

Also, if you already own a 1911 you'll be more likely to buy a different brand if you know that your holsters, grips, mags, etc will interchange.

Mag interchangeability is one of the reasons Glock owners often buy more than one. Same for S&W owners.
 
I hope you're right here Bluesbear......

Sadly, everything I've seen come down from the elected aristocracy in the last 30 years leads me to believe otherwise.
 
I don't think you will see any difference at all.

I have a post ban Para Ordnance P14 with high cap mags. It's not that hard to find high caps for most guns out there now.

Hopefully the price of those hiigh cap mags will go down after AWB.

People shoot what they like. My taste won't change because a piece of crappy legislation goes away.
 
I don't think it will make and difference if the ASB sunsets or not. Hi-cap 9MM mags are cheap and plentiful for the BHP, CZ-75 and Beretta 92. How many mags do you really need? While I have more for some guns, I am fine with two hicaps for each gun I own. I use the 10 rounders for the range and carry the hicaps.
 
If I'd held a Wilson, Les Baer, or Ed Brown 1911 thirteen years ago, I never would have bought any wondernines in the first place. ;)
 
I want a Walther P-99 but won't even consider it unless AWB dies. So. yes, it'll have an effect on my purchases. I doubt it does on the general gun buying public though.
 
IMO, I think that the main reason SW and SIG are into the 1911 is simple market share. The 1911 is a huge market and they do not have a dog in the fight. They can only gain market share (in the related income) by making and selling 1911s. Much like Nissan's venure into full size pick-ups. I'll also bet others who haven't made 1911s will do so in the future.
 
When A weapon is pulled in self defense how many times are more than one or two rounds ever fired? In most cases I think you would see that when a firearm is pulled the attacker runs. Most of the criminals are cowards and want the least amount of resistance. But hey if you feel better with a lot of rounds on your hip then geet a Glock 17 with a 33 round mag.
 
I don't see much changing. I sure haven't sold any of my old obsolete wheelguns to run out and get the new 7 or 8 shot versions.

IMHO, the hagher capacity magazines are more for stroking egos than any practical purpose. I own quite a few semi-automatics with 13, 15 and even 17 round magazines but what I carry is most often a single stack with only 6 or 7 rounds or my DS.

But I also think that there is an almost 0% chance of the magazine ban going away.
 
As long as the marketing department keeps reminding us that USMC Det-1 (I think) selected Kimber, LAPD selected Kimber, the FBI (I think?) selected Springfield Armory, Tacoma PD selected Kimber, ad nauseum, I think they'll be selling plenty :D
 
How many folks who carry 1911's have been killed while trying to reload?

Regards,
Happyguy:D
 
I think the .40S&W and the .357SIG will get more of a boost than the venerable 9mm, but I could be mistaken.
 
If they made a Walther P99 size pistol with 100 rounds of effective ammo, and this thing is legal, would I carry it? You bet.

You may feel 6,7, or 8 rounds is enough, and statistically you are correct. But then statistically you'll never need a handgun anyways. I have handguns for one purpose - worest case senario. For that I personally like effective ammo and lots of it.

The appeal of the 1911 is more the ergonomics of the gun rather than the ammo. Therefore this gun will always have a loyal following. If you like how it shoots fine, but don't try to argue less is more when it comes to ammo quantity. Having twice the ammo is not a disadvantage. But if you feel 8 shots is all you need, chances are you like to assume your opponent(s) will be poorer shooters than you, less prepared than you, less well armed than you. That doesn't fit into my worest case scenario.
 
re Jar: A respectful disagreement...

I don't see much changing. I sure haven't sold any of my old obsolete wheelguns to run out and get the new 7 or 8 shot versions.
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I would expect to see the market change as previously LEO only mag's are available in a variety of calibers, but I don't see it as a 9mm vs. 1911 equation.

IMHO, the hagher capacity magazines are more for stroking egos than any practical purpose. I own quite a few semi-automatics with 13, 15 and even 17 round magazines but what I carry is most often a single stack with only 6 or 7 rounds or my DS.
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I find this opinion interesting in that LEO's with reinforcements available with a simple radio call find it appropriate to carry full capacity magazines. Given that most of us will be defending our lives and our families without that benefit, I find the 10-round is fine a bit presumptous beyond the obvious infringement that it imposes.
But I also think that there is an almost 0% chance of the magazine ban going away.
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Tongue firmly and cheek and presented as a gentle chastisement...yeah, with that attitude, we have no chance. Old Chuck and Diane and Bab's and Rosie...they're just way too tough for us wimpy gun owners.;)

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CZ52'
 
Not for me. I own both, along with hi-cap .40s.

It just means I'll be able to buy cheaper hi-caps. I'll also then be able to own "legal" USP 45 12 rounders. The USP 45 is the best of both worlds, if your hand can fit and don't mind polymer.
 
Well, since most gunfights are at not much more then arms length, having a bunch of ammo is just an invitation to "spray and pray" IMHO. The words from ComTac shooting school and many others "you can't miss fast enough to win" come to mind as well. Personally I'll keep my 1911 and one spare mag. If the fight is still going on after 16 rounds I'm going to hightail it on out of there. :neener:
 
Good point Gabe.

I don't think that the 1911 will suffer. In fact, I'll probably be buying my first 1911 around when the ban drops.

I think that if the ban drops, we will see a run on hi-cap mags, though. I'll definitely buy more hi-cap mags (especially for my P229), and possibly even tuck away a bunch of mags for all my hi-cap firearms, just in case.
 
There have been large capacity 9mm pistol since long before Slick Willy decided you were incapable of dealing with them. They didn't seem bother the .45 much. The BHP was first sold Stateside when? 1935? Mind you, in those days your lot was even more into NIH than you are now. Relax nothing ever changes.
 
If it goes away, then yes. As long time 1911 users pass away, yes. As people learn about self defense & courts, yes.
 
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