Winchester 94 value??

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Hey all,
I'm never the "what's my gun worth?!?" Guy. Ever .
Except now.
Talking to a customer of mine he mentioned he's been looking for a winchester 94 but they're all super expensive and some he's seen over $1000 were beat up and worn out and nice ones were much more. So it got my gears turning. I've got a 94 ranger in 30-30, made about 1997. It's basically brand new, maybe 30 rounds through it . what's the value? If it's decent I'll sell it for sure, never shoot it and I like my Marlins more. I only paid about $400 for it a couple years ago from a buddy. What do you think?
 
For a 1997 Ranger you may have overpaid at $400. I don't think it would be worth any more than that.

probably about what a new one today would cost if in good condition

The new ones being made today are from Japan and are all high end fancy rifles with prices starting at $1400 for the basic rifle and over $3000 for others.

http://www.winchesterguns.com/produ...odel-1894-125th-anniversary-custom-grade.html

Some of the Pre-64's with walnut stocks can bring a lot of money but prices are all over the place depending on exact configuration and condition. Some could easily bring several thousand dollars. A post 64 model 94 in decent shape is a $400-$700 rifle.

The Rangers were budget guns with cheap wood, cheaper sights, and a lower grade of bluing. Not a lot of interest in them except as shooters and knock around rifles.
 
For a 1997 Ranger you may have overpaid at $400. I don't think it would be worth any more than that.



The new ones being made today are from Japan and are all high end fancy rifles with prices starting at $1400 for the basic rifle and over $3000 for others.

http://www.winchesterguns.com/produ...odel-1894-125th-anniversary-custom-grade.html

Some of the Pre-64's with walnut stocks can bring a lot of money but prices are all over the place depending on exact configuration and condition. Some could easily bring several thousand dollars. A post 64 model 94 in decent shape is a $400-$700 rifle.

The Rangers were budget guns with cheap wood, cheaper sights, and a lower grade of bluing. Not a lot of interest in them except as shooters and knock around rifles.
Kind of what I thought. I'm not good at determining value from auction sites. I tried before posting . if it's $400, I'll keep her as it is a good accurate rifle, if I can get a high price out of it, it's new revolver time.
 
I'd ask what you paid for it. I think that's a good deal for both of you.

About two years ago, I came across a minty Win 94AE with the tang safety. Late model, but not the MIJ Miroku guns. I think I gave $400 for it. It was smooth cycling and looked new but the trigger sucked so bad that I eventually sold it for the same as I paid.

New owner was thrilled as I was (originally) to get it. Never heard how he felt after he tried to shoot it though.

I'm spoiled though. My 1959 Win 94 has one of the best triggers of all my guns. No creep, clean break of about 3.5 lbs. Might be one reason it's such a good shooter. I have yet to shoot another lever gun that had a trigger that was anywhere close.
 
I have a ‘94 XTR I bought awhile back that looked like it was unfired when I bought it, inside and wood were perfect but must have been stored in a hot water heater closet as it was freckled with rust spots. I paid $150 for it and it has been a loaner gun for a number of folks over the years for deer and hogs.
 
I'd say the customer is either looking at the wrong guns or at the wrong places. Should be relatively easy to find a nice later model 94 for a lot less than that.
 
A couple of auction sites LIST the Winchester 94 Ranger 30-30 at $600 to $700. I don’t know what others I found on line sold for on those same sites because I did not join the site to see that info.
 
A post 64 model 94 in decent shape is a $400-$700 rifle.

There's a big difference in terms of quality of workmanship and material between Model 94s made between 1964 and the late seventies (changes for the better occurring around serial numbers in the 3,400,000 range, according to author Robert C. Renneberg, in his book Winchester Model 94; a Century of Craftsmanship).
 
I don't see them as often as I used to, but when I do they're usually between $350-$450 depending on condition.
 
Mine isn't a Ranger model, and was made in 1968, I believe. It was marked $350 when I bought it with another gun, a Star Super B, that was marked $250. The Star was in near-mint condition; the 94 maybe in 75% condition, with some bluing wear. I paid $500 for the pair, so I guess, figuring that $250 was a fair price for the Super B, then that's also what I paid for the Winchester.
 
I’ve sold about 8 Winchester 94s on Gunbroker in the last year, at no reserve auction with bidding starting at $0.01. Prices ranged from 305 (well worn 1970s vintage but really pretty, albeit dinged up, wood) to 890 (1916 -if I recall- manufacture saddle ring carbine, well-worn) with the balance selling in the 350-450 range. One really nice 1962 in about 98% condition sold for $700. A mint, 100% dating to about 1979 sold for $400.

Everyone knows the model 94 suffered somewhat in the cheapening reforms of ‘64, so the pre-64s do carry a premium. On the other hand, within a few years they were back to original functionality if not elegance, and the number of guys who were around first hand to witness those changes is shrinking, and there have been literally millions and millions of ‘94s made. They stopped making them altogether for awhile, just because it’s hard to sell a new one competitively when there are tens of thousands floating around on the second hand market at any given time. I believe that if they’re available new, it’s a Miroku and priced accordingly, but in my experience, there are lots of nice 94s out there for $500 and under. It’s only the unusual and odd pre-64 variants or the pre-64s in exceptionally high condition that really get up there in price.
 
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