Winchester Safe

It's not a bad safe for the price at all. It will be fine for the amount of firearms he has now. Just be advised that gun capacity ratings on safes is a myth so take into consideration expansion of the collection...
 
One other issue. I have a safe that size. Waiting to be picked up by a buddy. Occasionally safes need to be moved. This is about the max size (approx 600-700 pounds) were it’s still manageable and not a significant emotional event.

Although mine wasn’t a Winchester branded one the layout was exactly the same. I found it very practical and reasonably accessible for the long rifles in the back.
 
I've had a 19 gun Winchester safe for about 6 or 7 years now it has an electric lock and holds ~12 rifles that are all scoped AR or precision bolt guns (I keep the Fudd guns separately in another safe lol).
I've had no issues with the lock, it gives a warning when the battery gets low.
 
mavracer said:
I've had a 19 gun Winchester safe for about 6 or 7 years now it has an electric lock and holds ~12 rifles that are all scoped AR or precision bolt guns (I keep the Fudd guns separately in another safe lol).
I've had no issues with the lock, it gives a warning when the battery gets low.
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Thanks, good info!
 
Hey sure beats putting em in the closet and hoping they will be there when you get back from a trip. That is a decent safe you will hear yada yada yada but anytime you can lock em down you got a lot better chance of them staying put right where they are enjoy.
 
I have a very similar safe, TS-22. Bought it 15 years ago or so. I change the 9v battery on the keypad every 6 months whether it is needed or not. And use a name brand like Duracell or Energizer, not a cheap brand or rechargeable like many of my other batteries. While I do worry about the keypad, it hasn't given me any reason yet. Chief difference with my model is the UL certified lock. The door panel is a great upgrade to a standard safe and comes with most of the Winchester brands. Shop around at the physical store and the website. They offer a model that has a 6 handgun storage panel that suit your grandson better than 4. They do fill up fast.

The barrel rests for long guns are the most limiting part of the safe like many others. They won't hold nearly as many long guns as advertised. I've gotten 6 rifles and shotguns on one side. Probably could have gotten at most 2 more in without worrying about scopes or wood banging into each other. Rifle rods or opening up the other side of the safe for long guns is always an option as well.
 
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Frulk said:
Occasionally safes need to be moved. This is about the max size (approx 600-700 pounds) were it’s still manageable and not a significant emotional event.
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That's something to consider. I've had to move my 24" Treadlok, and it was easy enough with a buddy to help navigate, and with it on an appliance dolly. I suspect a 30" would be about the max for an appliance dolly... and you will have to think about your clearances, too... to get it back to wherever it's going.
 
I have a similar 18 cubic foot "26 Gun" Tractor Supply Winchester safe as well. I have 14 rifles, 4 shotguns, and 5 handguns. Rifles vary from from AR's, magnum bolt actions, lever actions and 10/22's - 31" to 45" OAL. They all fit - BARELY (I could get another 4 to 5 handguns on the top shelf and I am working on that :thumbup:). I'd be happier with another safe and loading half of what I currently have in it so it is easier to access my guns. So, 8 long guns and 5 handguns would be a very comfortable fit. I would say up to 12 long guns would be easy, with easy access, without starting to get creative.

I haven't removed the shelves with grooved barrel rests, but I've used some eye loops to anchor bungy chord to so that the rifles can sit at a different angle and not require gravity to hold them in place, or they can sit barrel down. I remove some rifle bolts so bolt handles don't conflict. One AR lower and upper get separated. Just ordered some gun socks to keep them a little better protected, but I was always very, very careful when putting them in and taking them out. I actually had to take a picture so I could remember just how they would fit back in the safe.

I haven't tried rifle rods to increase the capacity. It seems if I stick more guns into this safe, no matter what method I use, it will just make access more difficult. If I get any more long guns, I'm definitely looking at another safe, or a bigger safe.

Fire rating and theft resistance didn't come much into play. Mine is mainly for safe storage with kids at home and offering resistance to smash and grab burglary. I am just assuming if my house burns down, they will be a total loss and insurance will cover it. Regarding theft resistance, it will definitely stop a smash and grab. I have it bolted to my floor and it is tucked in a corner with a full freezer. That and locked doors will slow them down a few minutes and hopefully cameras, motion detectors, etc. will help notify me, so when they hear my voice telling them the police are on the way, they'll decide they don't have those few minutes.
 
d31tc said:
I have a similar 18 cubic foot "26 Gun" Tractor Supply Winchester safe as well. I have 14 rifles, 4 shotguns, and 5 handguns. Rifles vary from from AR's, magnum bolt actions, lever actions and 10/22's - 31" to 45" OAL. They all fit - BARELY (I could get another 4 to 5 handguns on the top shelf and I am working on that :thumbup:). I'd be happier with another safe and loading half of what I currently have in it so it is easier to access my guns. So, 8 long guns and 5 handguns would be a very comfortable fit. I would say up to 12 long guns would be easy, with easy access, without starting to get creative.

I haven't removed the shelves with grooved barrel rests, but I've used some eye loops to anchor bungy chord to so that the rifles can sit at a different angle and not require gravity to hold them in place, or they can sit barrel down. I remove some rifle bolts so bolt handles don't conflict. One AR lower and upper get separated. Just ordered some gun socks to keep them a little better protected, but I was always very, very careful when putting them in and taking them out. I actually had to take a picture so I could remember just how they would fit back in the safe.

I haven't tried rifle rods to increase the capacity. It seems if I stick more guns into this safe, no matter what method I use, it will just make access more difficult. If I get any more long guns, I'm definitely looking at another safe, or a bigger safe.

Fire rating and theft resistance didn't come much into play. Mine is mainly for safe storage with kids at home and offering resistance to smash and grab burglary. I am just assuming if my house burns down, they will be a total loss and insurance will cover it. Regarding theft resistance, it will definitely stop a smash and grab. I have it bolted to my floor and it is tucked in a corner with a full freezer. That and locked doors will slow them down a few minutes and hopefully cameras, motion detectors, etc. will help notify me, so when they hear my voice telling them the police are on the way, they'll decide they don't have those few minutes.
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Thanks for the very thorough review. We're picking one up on Sunday.
 
When I noticed the marked down Winchester demo had combination and key entry as backup, that got a wow out of me. The original battery is still going 2+ years later.

Enjoy your new safe!

Edit: Just replaced a new Duracell in the lock in seconds- it retains the combo., and no worries about getting back in.
 
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