Wisconsin Update

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Very nice - the time is right for constitutional carry. I would love to see a list of firearms trainers that are lobbying for mandatory training. It's time to put their names up and boycott them for not understanding the constitution.
 
There was a lobby in AZ when they passed theirs and is was pretty shocking really. Here is a group of folks that should believe in the original intent of the constitution but they would gladly see that repressed to 'save' their livelihood. However, the irony is that they (well, the good ones anyway) will probably end up offering a better service and more training to those who want it (and make more doing it) because whenever the government imposes training requirements of any kind, that's what people will train to (and very little more). Without them and with a severe penalty for misuse, people tend to do get the training they deem they need which is probably more than what the state requires. Who here does yearly driving refresher courses or attends a refresher hunters safety training course? I'm not saying we shouldn't have licensing of any sort, but those in the training business need to be aware of how this really works for them.

Anyway, anyone know of a list yet?
 
Dang, if WI gets CCS, Illinois will be the last state left standing without something on the books.

My state sucks. :(
 
Chicgo ruels the state of IL.
Since the turn of the centry the city bosses and the criminals wanted the honest citizen to be disarmed. Milwaukee is not much different. The powers are shared and the wolves feed off the unarmed defenseless sheepel.
I am not speaking of the L.E. on the streets but the ones behind the desk and the politicians. We the People are not blind.
Now if we the people had some ambition we could hold the feet to the fire and get some real action.
Wait and see what the swing vote rallies for next fall.
 
I am a firearms trainer - and I am opposed to mandatory training.

I would have rather have a class of 4 who WANT to be there, than a class of 8 who are only there to check a box.
 
Dang, if WI gets CCS, Illinois will be the last state left standing without something on the books.

Dominoes and baby steps. You don't go directly from A to Z. If you can get to B this year, take it and work on C next year.

We in Texas (and most other Southern states with nominally good CCW laws) do not have Open Carry or Campus Carry...but we are working on it. Chip away at the stone.

Funny thing is any gun store in MN or instructor that offers the classes strongly supports Minnesotans to take the class every 5 years, despite most states not requiring it. Business and gubbermint hand in hand.
Look at it another way. The more people that have a CCW, the stronger the united voice of the people. If there were 150 people in the state who had a CCW, would anyone in the State House pay any attention at all? How about if there were 150,000? How about if there were 1.5 million? Now we're getting somewhere.

I encourage everyone I know to take the Texas CHL class and get licensed...and to join the NRA. There is power in numbers.

Unless you have millions/billions of dollars to contribute to your favorite candidate, encouraging others to join you and convince your elected officails likewise is the way to go. Otherwise, you are probably urinating into a headwind.
 
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The bills that Gunderson and Zien's offices (and the NRA) wrote in 2003 and 2005 were excellent: minimal training requirements; instant reciprocity with all issuing states; carry in restaurants that serve; and more.

A lot of people paid with campaign contributions and volunteer time at gun shows and elsewhere to advance the CCW effort. The Republicans owe the gun owners, and they'd better not forget it.

Those bills had better be passed clean or Wisconsin CCW supporters should be screaming at the capitol.
 
Passing a carry law in Wisconsin is going to make Badger Guns in Milwaukee happy.
 
It'll make me very happy. I could honestly care less about Badger guns, I'd much rather be able to carry my firearm for seld-defense concealed.
 
I purchase firearms from Badger Guns and have been a patron for about 10 years. I live about a mile away from them and sometimes get a deal from them or they have a high margin, but ordering can be on the level depending on the firearm. My last purchase was a Ruger LCP and a SIG P239. Give some take some. They have to put up with the Milwaukee/ west milwaukee anti-gun toe-brain argument, although you just go into a non-boarding town and they get no heat from the anti-gunners! Wisconsin will being added great 49 instead of the great 48 for CCW (congrats to Mr. Scott Walker!). Miwaukee City vs. the Village of West milaukee was a big issue for guns linked to shootings of Police and all...duh!!! they're right on the line...one side of 43rd st is Milwaukee and the other is w. Milaukee Village. NOT IN THE CITY MILWAUKEE That snuffed FFL's a while back! The rest of the county and the great state of wisconsin is open to us leagle people purchasing firearms.

Oh well, good selection of firearms and a great indoor range...not a bad situation all and all..


Kev
 
don't get me wrong. I'm on your side with the carry in Wisconsin carry. I grew in the Milwaukee area and saw how things were going, I left and never looked back. When I do make a rare trip there for obiigatory family matters, I carry. I know Wisconsin does not have it but I do anyway and have to drive thru Minnesota where they don't either. I guess it's catch me if ya can. No way will I drive around that town empty handed.
 
My birthday is in September. I may just have to buy myself a present if they can pass a CCW law by then! :D
 
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