rainbowbob
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From the Seattle times:
Is this as fishy as it sounds...or is it possible? Anybody know?
Is this as fishy as it sounds...or is it possible? Anybody know?
Woman's stove was packing heat
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MinnMooney
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It's possible.................... loaded ammo can go off in fire.
Is it probable? My money would be on someone she knows and is protecting shot her either accidentally or (?) and she made up this story.
If I were the authorities and knew of no previous incidents involving her and some type of violence against her, I'd give her the benefit of believing her - but I'd monitor the situation in the future.
Is it probable? My money would be on someone she knows and is protecting shot her either accidentally or (?) and she made up this story.
If I were the authorities and knew of no previous incidents involving her and some type of violence against her, I'd give her the benefit of believing her - but I'd monitor the situation in the future.
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Many of the new cast iron stoves have glass doors in front so I would say it is possible if she had one.
If she had put it in her kitchen stove she would have had a firing range.
If she had put it in her kitchen stove she would have had a firing range.
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actually if the "piece of metal fragment" was from the brass base of the shell and not a lead shot... and the stove door was still open when it happened the quite possible......
actually if the "piece of metal fragment" was from the brass base of the shell and not a lead shot... and the stove door was still open when it happened the quite possible......
Old Grump
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Shotgun shell, highly unlikely. Read Hatchers book on his experiments. The sides of the case would expand and the powder would burn before the primer went off. Story stinks.
Code3GT
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sounds like a twist on the ol' gun stored in the oven bit. mythbusters busted that one too
Ancient Mariner
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Here in southwest Washington in the local paper it was described as a 22 guage shotgun shell. Like most of the media they don't know what they are talking about and don't check it out.
Hans Esker
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Snakeshot?
A "22 guage shotgun shell", combined with the fact it was from a spilled box (Much easier to lose a rimfire round than an shotgun shell) makes it sound like a 22LR snakeshot cartridge (#12 shot) is the culprit here. Also, if the case was braced or held in place in any way there might be enough projectile energy to penetrate skin.
A "22 guage shotgun shell", combined with the fact it was from a spilled box (Much easier to lose a rimfire round than an shotgun shell) makes it sound like a 22LR snakeshot cartridge (#12 shot) is the culprit here. Also, if the case was braced or held in place in any way there might be enough projectile energy to penetrate skin.
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She should take her stove down to the range to see what kind of groups she can pull.
brassdog
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But where do you find a case big enough to fit it?
Old Grump
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shoulder holster
brassdog
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Gives new meaning to the term "heater".
Jeff F
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I think myth busters just cooked off ammo in an oven and I believe the brass went flying a little ways.
I'd be willing to bet that if you had a gun with a round "chambered" and it cooked off in an oven it would go off just as if you pulled the trigger. I remember a news report of just that happening and the discharged bullet went through the back of the oven and killed an 18 month old baby sleeping in another room of the house.
damien
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Man Charged After Gun Hidden in Oven Goes Off, Injuring 2 Boys
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340688,00.html
Man Charged After Gun Hidden in Oven Goes Off, Injuring 2 Boys
Saturday, March 22, 2008
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CHICAGO — Chicago police say two children were injured when a loaded handgun hidden inside an oven discharged when the stove was heated for cooking.
Twenty-four-year-old Anthony Smith of Chicago has been charged with two counts of endangering the life of a child.
Police spokesman Marcel Bright says Smith apparently had hidden the gun in the oven.
The injured children's sister was cooking Friday afternoon when the gun went off. A 4-year-old boy is in stable condition with a gunshot wound to the leg. His 12-year-old brother was struck on the forehead by a fragment from the gun. He has been treated and released.
Smith, a convicted felon on parole, also was charged with unlawful use of a weapon.
It was not immediately clear if Smith was represented by an attorney.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340688,00.html
Man Charged After Gun Hidden in Oven Goes Off, Injuring 2 Boys
Saturday, March 22, 2008
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CHICAGO — Chicago police say two children were injured when a loaded handgun hidden inside an oven discharged when the stove was heated for cooking.
Twenty-four-year-old Anthony Smith of Chicago has been charged with two counts of endangering the life of a child.
Police spokesman Marcel Bright says Smith apparently had hidden the gun in the oven.
The injured children's sister was cooking Friday afternoon when the gun went off. A 4-year-old boy is in stable condition with a gunshot wound to the leg. His 12-year-old brother was struck on the forehead by a fragment from the gun. He has been treated and released.
Smith, a convicted felon on parole, also was charged with unlawful use of a weapon.
It was not immediately clear if Smith was represented by an attorney.
Artiz
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Mythbusters have already answered these questions.
There is many stories where people got shot while pre-heating the oven, they forgot that they were storing ammo in the oven (I can do this, mine doesn't work anymore) and the rounds exploded. Some stories like that are worse because they had put a loaded gun in the oven, with a round in the chamber.
There is many stories where people got shot while pre-heating the oven, they forgot that they were storing ammo in the oven (I can do this, mine doesn't work anymore
) and the rounds exploded. Some stories like that are worse because they had put a loaded gun in the oven, with a round in the chamber.As someone who has seen first hand how ammo cooks in a fire I've seen shotgun shells exploded and 45 ammo that blew the lighter brass away from the heavier bullet.
We had a house fire a couple of years ago and I stored some of my ammo on top of the safe. It was cooking off when the firefighters were entering the house and putting it out. They weren't as concerned about the loose ammo as where I kept any loaded guns outside the safe.
I didn't keep any of the destroyed ammo but wish I had to show how it looked. Basically the brass on the 45 was bulged and split. Some of the brass was stuck primer end into the sheetrock next to the vault. The initial explosions knocked most of the box to the floor and it didn't cook off. It was a weird experience..
We had a house fire a couple of years ago and I stored some of my ammo on top of the safe. It was cooking off when the firefighters were entering the house and putting it out. They weren't as concerned about the loose ammo as where I kept any loaded guns outside the safe.
I didn't keep any of the destroyed ammo but wish I had to show how it looked. Basically the brass on the 45 was bulged and split. Some of the brass was stuck primer end into the sheetrock next to the vault. The initial explosions knocked most of the box to the floor and it didn't cook off. It was a weird experience..
stevelyn
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If there was a loaded gun in there that cooked off, I'd say yes.
Ammo? No.
Ammo? No.
bdickens
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Its time to get these fully-automatic .50 caliber street sweeper cop-killer assault stoves off our streets! We need tougher laws!
Jeff F wrote:
They did it both ways. The loose cartridges mostly dented the inside of the oven - brass pieces, mostly. I think the .50BMG round at least broke the glass window in the door, and I certainly wouldn't care to get hit by the case fragments, but it was nothing like what would happen if the round was fired from an appropriate weapon. The test they did with a chambered pistol, naturally, punched a hole in the oven just as if the trigger had been pulled (no surprise there).
I forget what temperature the oven got to before rounds started cooking off, though - over 350F IIRC, but I can't remember how much over.
I like Mythbusters a lot. While they make the occasional mistake, they're safe and they have fun while blowing holes in generally-held misconceptions about firearms (and lots of other things, too). And every so often, they blow up a cement truck or something, which is always worth watching.
They did it both ways. The loose cartridges mostly dented the inside of the oven - brass pieces, mostly. I think the .50BMG round at least broke the glass window in the door, and I certainly wouldn't care to get hit by the case fragments, but it was nothing like what would happen if the round was fired from an appropriate weapon. The test they did with a chambered pistol, naturally, punched a hole in the oven just as if the trigger had been pulled (no surprise there).
I forget what temperature the oven got to before rounds started cooking off, though - over 350F IIRC, but I can't remember how much over.
I like Mythbusters a lot. While they make the occasional mistake, they're safe and they have fun while blowing holes in generally-held misconceptions about firearms (and lots of other things, too). And every so often, they blow up a cement truck or something, which is always worth watching.
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