Wonder Wads

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Does anyone else have trouble with Wonder Wads? I've loaded a half dozen cylinders with them and for me they're just more trouble than they're worth.

A. they want to fold up and go in edge wise:mad:
B. they blow out between the barrel and the cylinder and jam the gun:fire:
C. parts of them are left behind in the cylinder after firing:eek:

Maybe I'm just not doing it right.
I think I'll stick to lube pills.:D
Bill
 
I will agree that sometimes they can be a booger to get started straight in the cylinder, but other than that, I've never had the other problems you described. You ARE loading them between the powder & ball, right?
 
WW

Oh yeah. Powder, wad, ball. Nine times out of ten they work just fine, not counting the trouble getting them in flat. That 10th time though.:banghead:
Bill
 
Wonder Wads beat the alternatives. Some alternatives include cream of wheat...mess.... and , or, lots of crisco or other grease. More mess. I'll take the wonder wads or other brands of the same felt any day.

Never had any left behind or cause a blow out between the barrel and the cylinders. Are you using powder for pistols, like Pyrodex P or BP for pistols?
 
Wonder Wads beat the alternatives. Some alternatives include cream of wheat...mess.... and , or, lots of crisco or other grease. More mess. I'll take the wonder wads or other brands of the same felt any day.

I'm just the opposite. I do not like the wonder wads or anything like them. No particular reason. I learned with grease over the loaded ball and that is what I use. Shure, it is a bit more messy but that is BP in general :) Using crisco or some other lube over the ball has never been that big of a problem. Besides, crisco is cheaper than wonder wads. Of course, this was when I lived in Colorado and did not have to worry about the grease dripping down my leg as I walked the field.:rolleyes: I have not carried my BP revolver since I've been in NC. Probably have to resort to a thicker lube here in the summer and fall.
 
roundball,
(Claims that 1:48" twists won't shoot patched balls accurately are old wive's tales !!)
If memory serves me correctly, some of the manufactuares went to this twist to provide the option between round ball and the conicals. This has always been an "in between" option, generally found in Thompsons and some others. I'm not nocking it, I only use patched RB so my twist is a lot slower. 1:66 or 1:72 range. I actually don't care as long as BP is being burnt. Love the smell ;)
 
Never have any problem at all with em, here in Tucson its too hot for grease it just runs right outa the chambers, I cut my own wonder wads and then bring the lube to a simmer and drop em in I cut mine from felt used for cowboy hats I buy from a local hat shop for a few pennies per pound for their scraps then made my own cutters from 7/16" gasket punch reamed out to perfect fit for the .44s and a 3/8" as is is perfect for .36 cals.....

As far as anything left over in chambers or barrels....... never anything at all and I got no idea how ya could be gettin em between barrel and cyl....... that I'd really have to see....... BTW a 1/2" gasket cutter is perfect for .45 wads
 
ww

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The one that jammed the cylinder was on my Pietta 1860 and it looks like it maybe disintegrated. The one that was left in the cylinder was using the Euroarms 1858 I just bought. It was really thin in the middle after I pulled it out with tweezers. You could see through it.
I'm kind of wondering if I got a bad bag of wads and they're not holding together like they should. This are the first/only wonder wads I've ever used so maybe I don't reallize they're not right or something. There's not something I should be doing to them besides pulling them out of the bag and putting them in is there?
Both problems occured when using 30 gr. Pyrodex P. I normally only shoot 25 gr. but sometimes I just use the whole 30 gr. spout full for the hell of it. Normally I just slather on the Crisco and sometimes use my homemade lube pills. I like the lube pills best but they're over at the winery and I was reloading at the kitchen table. I need to make up some more and get them into my kit.
 
It sounds like you're doing it right.
I just shove 'em in the chamber with my finger after I load the powder, then I ram it down a little with the rammer if it needs the push. Sometimes I just can put a ball on top and ram it home. Either way the WW is going to be flat in when loaded.
The only unusual thing I ever had happen with them is one time I went to check my target during a cease fire and the wad had stuck perfectly in the target where the ball had gone through, making a perfect plug for it. The WW was was a bit fried and singed on the rear but still greasy.
Your problem honestly stumps me.
 
Duhhh!

Well Duhhh! They don't feel greasy. I'd wondered how they were lubing anything but figured it was something released by the heat of combustion. The answer is that these aren't lubed. :banghead:
I'm guessing that if they were lubed like they were supposed to be they'd be a little more maleable and fit down on the powder better.
There's a simple fix for this, I'll just drag them through the softer of the 2 lube mixes I use. After they're gone I'll just stick to my lube pills.
Thanks
 
:rolleyes:;)
Er, um, yes, WW should be impregnated with grease. All the ones I've ever bought were -- probably you got a hold of some that bypassed a production step.
:uhoh: Where the heck has "quality-control gone these days????:uhoh::banghead::banghead:

Well, atleast the mystery of the malfunctioning wonderwads has been solved!!;);):D
 
My experience with Wonder Wads revealed inconsistencies in discharges. I packed the ball too tightly and the discharge was noticeably reduced, so much that it sounded like a half load or less. They say the patches have a dry lubricant but it will soak into powder, especially if packed tightly. I've never left a chamber unfired with a Wonder Wad so do not know if it will effect the powder. I went from a .451 to a .454 ball in my Army, and only use top qualith smooth balls. A complete ring is shaved and I don't use grease. I believe it is more likely to get a crossfire from the nipple than around the ball. If I shoot more than a few I'll use occasional grease or need to run a cleaning patch. Ed.
 
I've used WW's and noticed tighter groups. I made a punch and make my own now from duro-felt. place overpowder and a small dab of stiff lube atop then slug. works good so far. no idea what is going wrong with yours.
 
been using them for 14+ years in various revolvers of various calibers and have never had an issue. When shooting in early July I actually found 2 in my target (a phone book) at 18 paces where they had traveled with the balls. Old ones will dry out and appear unlubricated and will not work as deisgned, but this takes several years.
 
I just use a tube of lubri-plate white grease.

Yes, its messy. But since I just load and shoot at the range, no big deal.

Don't effect the powder being on top the bullet for maybe just a few minutes at a time.

At least for me, the wads are just one more thing to buy so you can shoot a cap and ball revolver.
 
lubed

I'm thinking that these weren't lubed like they were supposed to be. They don't look it or feel it. It may be that they were at the store for quite some time before I got there. It may be that they're just not right.
I've never seen one of mine after firing, except the two that screwed up on me. That's why I suspect they're disintegrating as they go down the barrel.
Thanks
 
lube pills

I got the wads before I started making lube pills. Lube pills rock. I've made two types of lube, one using crisco and one with canola oil. The canola oil version I made thinner so that I could wipe patches and paper towels through it when lubing the guns. Now I'll probably wipe the wads through it until I get them used up.
 
I mentioned above that Wonder Wads caused variations in powder discharge. Seems I was the only one that noticed this so conducted an experiment this morning. I used the same small amount of powder and made two mounds. One pile I blotted lightly with a Wonder Wad so the granules clotted together. I did not over saturate. It sizzled as it burned, but it did burn so would have fired. The other was very noticeably faster burning and "poofed".

The reason I experimented is to determine the effect on black powder because I want to load 45 Colt casings for my Peacemaker. The casings will hold 40 gr of black powder with the proper compression as the bullet is inserted. It may be the authentic charge in the old days but a bit heavy for my satisfaction. I want to load 25 to 30 grains but need something to take up the gap. I thought 2 to 4 Wonder Wads of 44 cal would be perfect because they fit in the cartridge perfectly. However, I need ungreased wads. Even that, I am concerned because they are felt. I read somewhere that only a poly type material should be used. Maybe the felt holds air. If anyone here knows where I can get a poly fiber wads please let me know.

By the way... All Wonder Wads are not equal. I had some that were yellow and my son had some that were white. Both were saturated heavily but appeared to be two types of grease. Although advertised as "dry" lube it wasn't. The white was grainier, as it it had some dry in it but I couldn't handle them without getting wet grease on my fingers. The grease is a good thing but I prefer not having it pressed against the powder. If it works for you then it is probably okay and my anal side is showing. Ed.
 
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