Would You Buy A Gun With Notches?

Would You Buy A Gun That Has Notches?

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Joe Demko said:
I'm not in the habit of collecting souvenirs of killings, especially murders. I'm also not in the habit of paying for stories. If either gives you a nice little piss-shiver, then pony up the cash.
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It's called history son, Old West, Civil War, WW I or II, gun, knife, vehicle, article of clothing, anytime you can connect any object with an event in history it becomes more valuable to collectors. James Deans sports car, robot body from "Forbidden Planet", the Nazi flag over their HQ, the war souvenir, all just objects with a verifiable history.

It is not the object that is evil or good but the person that wielded it...

Just as Mother Teresa's rosary would be a real collectors item at auction so would Jessie Jame's holster or gun. There is a very old saying and that is "He who does not study history is doomed to repeat it" and having an object in hand adds a physical link to that History....

Just as one old gal that was a survivor of the Titanic was handed a lump of coal from her boiler (recovered by an early expedition) she broke down into tears at the remembrance, it was a physical link for her, was that morbid or just a piece of history?

All just objects, nothing to get bent over, so take a breath and live with it....
 
History is never forgotten due to lack of hoarding ghoulish souveniers. Jesse James is not remembered, "son," because somebody still has his pistol. To the contrary, the pistol is of special value only because of his criminal history.
 
Jesse James is not remembered, "son," because somebody still has his pistol. To the contrary, the pistol is of special value only because of his criminal history.
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You just proved the other guy's point, son.
 
You need to work on those thinking skills, skippy. Let me explain it just for you: Jesse James is not remembered because somebody has his pistol. A verifiable Jesse James pistol is valuable, to some, because Jesse James was a famous killer. There are plenty of 19th century firearms of no particular provenance that are every bit as "historic" but don't command the premium because they can't be proven to have been in the hand of a famous killer.
 
There are plenty of 19th century firearms of no particular provenance that are every bit as "historic" but don't command the premium because they can't be proven to have been in the hand of a famous killer.
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I thought he was a famous bank robber, either way you're still pitching for the other team
 
like people befor me have sayed and ill say it again cause it has been bothering me for a while a gun is a tool created by man its only doing its job when it goes off and kills something its the guy who aimed and pulled the triggers fault not the gun
 
Originally Posted by Joe Demko
I'm not in the habit of collecting souvenirs of killings, especially murders.

There is no difference between Jesse James' gun and Hezekiah P. Nobody's gun.
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Make up your mind Joe, is it no different that Hezekiah Nobody's gun or is it a souvenir of a murder?

Which is worth more Clayton Moore's gun or Jesse James? What about Stonewall Jackson's gun or Alvin York's gun?
 
Might pay up to a $20 premium more if I knew they were kill marks or had some history to them--but not as of lately!

To each their own, however.
 
Make up your mind Joe, is it no different that Hezekiah Nobody's gun or is it a souvenir of a murder?
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I'm starting to believe that you are willfully missing the point.

The guns themselves are just objects. If I put a revolver belonging to Wesley Hardin and an identical revolver belonging to some forgotten sodbuster on the table, absent any other information they are worth equal amounts.
What I refuse to do is fetishize killing by paying extra for an intangible like a gun having been used in a killing_especially if the killing was a murder. That is what is at the heart of this discussion no matter how many times you pretend to misconstrue it. A gun that Billy the Kid drunkenly hocked for whiskey will be less valued by fetishists than one that could be proven to have been used by him to backshoot an enemy. That is the piss-shiver I referred to way upthread. If you search here at THR there is a lengthy thread about whether or not to buy a badly corroded .45. The corrosion was due to the previous owner's blood, and he was nobody of whom you ever heard. That thread was full of fetishists who coveted the gun exactly because of the blood corrosion and use in a killing.
How much is such an intangible worth to you? If I gave you a non-descript gun and told you nothing about it, would you be able to "sense" that it had belonged to Alvin York? What if I believably lied and presented genuine-looking documents? Would the 'sense of history" you felt when you held it still be genuine?
Good day to you.
 
I had no idea that Hezekiah Nobody was a murderer.

Makes me pee shiver...

There, that should close the thread. Or at least kill it off.

So, like EVERY OTHER TOPIC... someone people would, some people wouldnt and some people are passionate about it. What caliber were we discussing?
 
I'm looking at buying a pistol with three notches on the right grip. Problem is, it's a .22 Sharps four-barreled derringer.

I think that each notch stands for a special occasion - like all four barrels firing in a row without a jam or a mis-fire.
 
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