ww2 model 11?

[chromerunner]

Trying to dig up some info/value on this shotgun...

Im on vacation and not able to load pics at this time. I went to big pawn shop here in town where im staying...asked if he had any Model 11 remingtons (as i was in the marked for one) He didnt have any but said let me check the back....He brings out one that is showing some age. It has some patenia, not much blue left but in great shape...action is smooth and wood looks to be in great shape.

It has a big thing hanging off the end of the barrel that looks like compensator? It has a bird on one side engraved and has flaming bomb marks on reciver and barrel...Is this a ww2 shotgun (the bomb marks)

Gun looks like this

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=remi...0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&biw=1366&bih=605

Anybody know what these normally go for? I had to have it and wondering if i got a gooood deal! Thanks, cant wait to find some info on this ole beauty.

Also is there any ammo or type round i need to stay away from..the muzzle devise scares me a little....

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

I have a Savage Auto 5 clone that has something like that on the end. Its threaded for a cone like choke.

 

[chromerunner]

Yep. Came with a small and a alos a little longer extension

 

[Fred Fuller]

It's a combination compensator and variable choke tube device (you changed tubes to change chokes). The most widely known of that sort of thing was the Cutts Compensator. They were ... loud.

Plain ordinary standard sporting configuration shotguns (not riot and not trench guns) were also military shotguns, and were marked as such. Most of them were used in various recreation programs like skeet shooting (Rod and Gun Clubs) on military installations, and some were even used in training aircraft gunners in WW2 in shooting at moving targets, first from the ground, then from a moving platform. That is, the trainees shot skeet while being driven around in a stakebed truck. See the pictures at http://www.bomberlegends.com/pdf/BL_Mag_v2-2-GunneryTrain.pdf .

How much it's worth depends on what someone is willing to pay for it - and you established a baseline on that yourself already . Note that military marked shotguns are a hot commodity these days, and even a military marked sporting gun will bring a certain amount of premium especially if in good condition. See http://www.gunsinternational.com/listings.cfm?cat_id=639 to view an assortment of military marked shotguns.

Be aware that, given the hot market for .mil shotguns, fakes and frauds abound. This is less likely for sporting guns, but more common with trench and riot guns.

lpl

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Model 11 in Riot configuration, with pictures - http://cosmolineandrust.blogspot.com/2006/10/remington-model-11-very-belligerent_29.html (IIRC there was a prototype M11 trench gun, but with the long recoil system used in this design, mounting a bayonet was ... problematical, shall we say.)

Model 11, apparently with a different barrel installed - http://coolgunsite.com/images/shotgun/remington_mod11b.htm . I don't know if that's what happened here, but after WW2 my grandfather bought two surplus military marked Savage 720 Riot guns (for about $20 each IIRC) that came with their original Riot barrel plus an extra sporting barrel. Nowadays the Savage guns fetch a bit more than $20... see http://www.gunsinternational.com/Savage-Model-720-Military-Riot-Gun.cfm?gun_id=100173584 . The Model 11 is not as scarce as the Savage but military marked shotguns do tend to bring premiums from collectors.

 

[chromerunner]

Thanks for the links and info

 

[KodiakBeer]

It's a combination compensator and variable choke tube device (you changed tubes to change chokes). The most widely known of that sort of thing was the Cutts Compensator.

It is the "Corncob of Death".

 

[Fred Fuller]

It is the "Corncob of Death"

I've heard them called far worse...

lpl

 

[natman]

I've got a Model 11 Sportsman with military markings. It was almost certainly used as a gunnery trainer rather than a riot gun because of its longer barrel and limited capacity.

My favorite part is Remington stamping "MILITARY FINISH" on the gun, lest anyone mistake the matte blue for a typical Remington finish. How things have changed!