XDS in 9mm

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I don't get all the fuss over a single stack 9mm. They have been available from one source or another for a long time. So have single stack .45s. I haven't noticed any of the slimmer double stack options being hard to conceal, certainly not to the point that a single stack would have worked when a double stack didn't. I also find the double stacks fit my hand better. The M&P 9c with the large back strap is perfect for my hand. I wear moderately form fitting clothing, nothing spandex like but nothing that balloons out either. I have yet to have a problem that a m&p 9c or glock 26 or XD SC would print but a shield or kahr pm9 wouldn't have also printed.

For those interested in the XDS 45/40/9, why are these single stacks such a draw? There are currently a few quality single stacks available in those calibers with little hype following them today. Is there some feature set I'm missing? I've tried pocket carrying and the biggest pistol that would fit and draw from any of my pockets was an LCP. From there, everything is in a holster (and even the LCP was benefited greatly by holster carry). Wouldn't a proper holster be a bigger concern to conceal carry than the 0.25" width difference(difference between shield and 9c)? Is 0.25" worth giving up 6 rounds of 9 or 5 rounds of .45? I know the XDS is a smaller platform than the XDcompact but the XDS9 to the subcompact and the S&W compact to shield comparisons aren't much different in size but quite a bit different in capacity. The XDS45 is the only one that I could start to justify, since it really is a bit smaller all around than the other XD 45 options.
 
With my pockets, I could theoretically (and tested it) pocket carry a XDm compact. The problem was the weight. Sacrificing bullets means you're losing weight, and that is actually kind of attractive.

Personally, I'm right now looking for a combo (as mentioned in another thread) of a double-stack for IWB or OWB carry, and a single stack for pocket carry, preferably same caliber and definitely with same controls and trigger style. Honestly, at this point, it's looking like XDm and XDs are going to be the way to go, so you can imagine my desire for more caliber options.

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Did a quick Google search, someone on another forum (think it was defensive carry) said the response was "potentially fall/winter". Can't verify legitimacy.
 
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benzy, my issue with many of the other single stack 9mm pistols is the DAO trigger. I don't like them. Don't like their feel.

With that said, if I felt I could conceal a Glock 19 well enough, I would. Just don't know if many of my clothing options would keep from printing it. . . . thus the thin 9mm like the [eventual] XDs.
 
I have an xds (45) on lay away. :neener: I'll probably pick up a 9mm version next year. I really like the quality they built into it.
 
Meh. I've held the XDs. It's HUGE compared to all the really fine pocket nines and 40s that are on the market. Someone build a P290/PM40/Nano in 45 (ACP or GAP) and I'll buy a couple.

I see it as a good thing. Bit more of a grip means a bit less of a sting. This is also one of the few single-stacks I've seen besides railed 1911s to include a light rail. Not that I'd pocket carry it with a rail, but gives you the option should you want to add something to it.
 
I don't see the XDs being "huge, compared to other pocket nines". It may be a little bigger, but not by much. Comparing to the Shield, in fact, it seems similar if not somewhat smaller in an aspect or two.

When they come out, I don't plan on pocket carry anyway. Just something smaller for IWB, so for me, its size is very nice.
 
Yeah, I wasn't seeing it either. When I saw the word "HUGE" I :scrutiny: right away. Pretty sure the XDs is right on par with the other guns in its size category (PPS, Shield, Nano, PM45, etc). There is no practical difference in size between all the guns mentioned there. You're not going to pocket carry any of them and they are all around 0.9" thick and 4.4" tall. Those are the only dimensions that matter when talking IWB concealed carry and all those guns will feel the same.

The grip itself looks like it might be longer from front to back though because of the .45 cartridge. I haven't held one yet, but if this is the case I already know I'll like it. When the grip gets thin, I need it to be a little longer to compensate and allow my fingers to get the joints in the right spots. For example, I can't do the little grip circumference of a 9mm/.40 Kahr and the last thing I'll do is put a rubber wrap-around grip on a carry weapon because it could stick on a shirt. Maybe this is what VA27 was saying and perhaps he/she didn't like it because it didn't fit the hand?
 
You're not going to pocket carry any of them and they are all around 0.9" thick and 4.4" tall. Those are the only dimensions that matter when talking IWB concealed carry and all those guns will feel the same.

I will pocket carry it.
 
I really wanted an xds in 9 until I got a kahr cw9. The grip and trigger are so much better for me than my two xd's, and I am a sucker for stainless. But to each his own.

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I really wanted an xds in 9 until I got a kahr cw9. The grip and trigger are so much better for me than my two xd's, and I am a sucker for stainless. But to each his own.

Funny, I just did almost the exact same thing:p I was looking for a S&W Shield but nobody has one, I like the XDS but only available in .45... I was kind of really wanting a 9mm for cheaper shooting and it wouldn't kick so much so I'd practice more. Ended up looking at Kahrs...

Watching some comparisons on Youtube of the Kahr CW9 and Shield made me seek out the Kahr.

My local gun store had a CM9 in stock(smaller in every dimension)... so I bought it along with an extended magazine... which is awesome! It is incredibly controllable with the extended mag, and I can still shoot it just about as well with the flush magazine(albeit it does feel awkward to me with my pinky under the mag).

Very happy with my decision... doesn't mean I won't try to find and fondle an XDS in 9mm if/when I find one and they're available:evil:
 
As for the Size

On top of a Glock 19
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Side-by-Side with a Glock 19
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In my opinion the XDs (.45) is a great firearm but it's not a pocket pistol.

I have always been interested in Kahr but it's one of the few brands I haven't ever purchased because I hear very mixed reviews on reliability.

There are more side-by-side photos here www.operationswift.com with other guns of similar size.
 
I will pocket carry it.

I'd love to see a video of how it carries for you and how well it draws. I can't see it working well unless you wear a parachute for pants.
 
I'd love to see a video of how it carries for you and how well it draws. I can't see it working well unless you wear a parachute for pants.

Well, it's gotta be better than my XDm compact, which I have pocket carried.
 
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