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September 8, 2005

Smooth By Design

Boat's innovative 'M-hull' is meant to let military vessel plane over rough waters

By Bruce V. Bigelow, Staff Writer

The 80-foot vessel under construction at the Knight & Carver boatyard in National City has required no nails, no rivets and no welding.

When it is completed, the craft will be one of the largest ever made completely from carbon composites, the featherweight stuff used to make tennis rackets, golf shafts and skis.

In contrast to the dazzling luxury yachts at the 34-year-old marine repair center, the angular black boat looks stealthy, purposeful and ominous. It will be named the Stiletto.

If construction is completed in December as expected, the Stiletto will be painted in camouflage and turned over to the Pentagon's Special Operations Command for use by Navy SEALs and other special forces.

The boat was ordered by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's Office of Force Transformation. The $6 million contract was intended to assess the use of new carbon composite materials in warships as well as the innovative hull design, which was conceived by M Ship Co., a San Diego maritime design firm.

The hallmark of the firm's "M-hull" design lies mostly below the waterline.

The underside of the hull features four tunnels that channel the bow wave in a way that generates lift beneath the boat. Air churned from the bow wave is forced under increasing pressure through the tunnels, creating an air cushion against the hull that acts like that on an air hockey table.

The reduced drag allows the ship to plane and attain high speeds and greater stability – at least theoretically.

"We don't have computer-generated models that can test these concepts, so we have to build," said Navy Cmdr. Gregory E. Glaros, who has been overseeing construction for the Pentagon. "Part of our objective is to use this 80-foot model and generate the data we can use to build computer models so the government can explore new hull forms without the expense of actually building them."

Powered by four 1,650-horsepower marine diesel engines, the Stiletto is expected to cruise at up to 50 knots, equivalent to land speed of 58 miles per hour. Some small Navy boats can go that fast now. But the buffeting effects of bouncing across the waves can be so severe that sailors and other servicemen are routinely injured by the jolts.

The M-hull design promises a far smoother ride. That promise has drawn interest at the U.S. Coast Guard, as well, since it often makes high-speed interdictions of drug runners in coastal waters.

The design, named for the hull's M-shaped cross-section, represents a new technology that M Ship Co.'s founders, Chuck Robinson and Bill Burns, developed at the request of the water transit authority in Venice, Italy.

"They came to us for a solution to the problem of wave damage along the canals," Burns said. Destructive boat wakes were causing erosion and other serious problems for the foundations of ancient buildings in the city of canals.

The maritime engineers originally developed the M-hull to reduce boat wakes. The designers built a 23-foot water taxi. That led the Venice water authority to order a 65-foot ferry, the Vaporetto Mangia Onda, or "wave eater," which was built by Knight & Carver.

Robinson and Burns saw that the M-hull design also offered the potential for higher speeds with improved stability and fuel efficiency. Robinson, an erstwhile engineering instructor at the U.S. Naval Academy and a former official in President Ford's administration brought the idea to acquaintances in government.

Glaros said he reviewed the design, along with others, at a time when new mission requirements for coastal operations were leading planners to push for shallow-draft boats that offered improved performance and lower costs.

"What intrigued us about this was the simplicity of the design," Glaros recalled. Navy officials were particularly encouraged by tests of a 38-foot aluminum boat with an M-hull. While headed into the wind, the prototype actually increased its speed by 15 percent without adjusting the throttle, Glaros said.

Similar thinking drove the Navy's development of the X-Craft by San Diego's Titan Corp., which is now part of L-3 Communications. Christened the Sea Fighter, the experimental coastal warship is now based in San Diego.

"We weren't really pushing any science on the X-craft, either in terms of the materials or the hull form," Glaros said.

The contract for the Stiletto also provided an opportunity to push the development of an information systems backbone that Glaros called "an electronic keel." The concept calls for installing a high-capacity computer network in the vessel that allows the Navy to simply plug in new weapons systems, sensors and computers as such technologies advance.

Construction of the Stiletto began in November at Knight & Carver, with roughly 40 workers on the project. The privately held boatyard, which specializes in refitting and repairing super yachts, has about 180 people on the payroll, said Tim Kelly, Knight & Carver's general manager.

Among other things, Glaros said, the venture represents a test of carbon composite construction techniques.

"Can we take a design and lay the fiber accurately enough to make sure there are no gaps or weaknesses," he said.

With guidance from SP Systems, a British subcontractor that makes composite materials, the team developed techniques for making foam-core panels. The pieces are bonded together using epoxy and carbon fiber strips.

Refining such manufacturing techniques is also part of a broader effort to reinvigorate the nation's moribund shipbuilding industry, Glaros said.

As commercial ship construction shifted to Asia and elsewhere, the United States' shipyards have focused almost exclusively on military construction.

"We can now explore these things and fulfill the needs of the market," Glaros said, "not only militarily but commercially as well."
 
Geez, I thought we spent $10 billion on the USS JIMMY CARTER as a cruise ship for the SEALs?
 
Geez, I thought we spent $10 billion on the USS JIMMY CARTER as a cruise ship for the SEALs?

Shush WT- Don't tell anybody :evil: Actually Stiletto is being designed to support a lot of Go-Faster requirements (Navy Marine USCG Army). It will be looked at for Coastal Patrol and Riverine/Littoral applications. Shallow draft/high speed and ANY kind of a decent ride are pearls beyond price at anything over a SS1. Our SpecOps folks and LEO dets end up getting hurt worse on the boat ride than they do half the missions. Thanks for posting this 280 Plus. And yes it will be armed- Min 50 Cal and M-60's on swivels. :scrutiny:
 
I am going to be very interested to see how a carbon-composite hull ship will be able to stand up to fire, weather damage and damage from shellfire, bombs or missile strikes. If I recall correctly (and I may not be), don't most carbon composites give off very toxic and carcinogenic smoke when they burn? Can you slap an emergency patch over a shell hole, or does the composite delaminate, widening the hole?
 
Some European country had a carbon fiber coastal patrol boat catch fire recently. Burned like a SOB. Crew couldn't extinguish it.
 
Don't know about the boats but when CF Aircraft burn, it is ugly.

I remember watching 806 burning on the ground in Bosnia and thinking about how many of those diiots dancing around it were soon to die an ugly death.
801 crashed about 800 yards from my house and was a surefire mess too.
Cleanup took a long time. We have been pretty well warned about procedures on fires for CF structures.

Sam
 
Y'all are right on the CF fire issue- But remember, again, this is a prototype- It may (read probably) will be changed to a different material or combination of materials. CF with Kevlar impregnation or ceramic can offer benefits for safety, plus remain light weight. Also low RCS and low EO/IR play into the mix.

The biggest issue is the hull design. I rode a 50 ft "patrol" boat with a modded hull back through a SS5 at 20+ knots from SCI to Pt Loma with a quartering SW swell and was realitively comfortable. I wasn't thrown all over the boat, and my cohort actually slept through the whole thing. The other boat that was out with us was a conventional design, and they came in at 10 kts with people bouncing off bulkheads.
 
Couple questions, after acknowledging how cool this boat sounds;

1)if it's like an air-hockey table, then will it be launched off of a wave like a water-skiier off a ramp?

2)It it hits a wave and isn't launched, then is it going to be dangerous? At those speeds doesn't water feel like concrete, for all intents and purposes? Smacking into a wave sounds unpleasant, if the hull design is really not perfected.
 
*sigh* it's been so long since I bounced off a bulkhead..

I am reminded of what my wife said on this. Two of her three IDC tours were on Spruance class destroyers. Every time they hit rough weather, she had the sailors lined up for the scalp laceration repairs from hitting the bulkheads or the tops of the hatches. She said that some of the older sailors would come in, borrow some sutures, and do their own repairs, as well as she could!
 
1)if it's like an air-hockey table, then will it be launched off of a wave like a water-skiier off a ramp?

2)It it hits a wave and isn't launched, then is it going to be dangerous? At those speeds doesn't water feel like concrete, for all intents and purposes? Smacking into a wave sounds unpleasant, if the hull design is really not perfected.

Joejojoba111 the short answers are no, it won't launch- at probably 20 tons, it will just roll off the top of the wave. And yes, water is not compressable, that is why the sharp prow design both above and below the water line. It wouldn't be a nice ride if the driver was dumb enough to take the waves bow on at speed.

280 Plus, if you came back to work for us, you "might" get to drive- Come back to the dark side... :evil:
 
Oh YEAH, just like the way they were going to let me "fly" the first time...

"You want to fly? We'll let you fly!"

Didn't do a whole lotta flyin' in them bilges! :eek:

:p

It wouldn't be a nice ride if the driver was dumb enough to take the waves bow on at speed.
Well how we gonna get any air then? :evil:
 
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