Your Safe is not as Secure as you Think! plus electronic lock

[NVMM]

I have an old Cannon safe with the S&G dial lock. I could not open it the other day and about the 30th try I got "real lucky". I ended up replacing the lock with an Amsec ESL electronic lock which I like very much. And so far seems to be real convenient. The replacement is very straightforward, no special tools needed and seems to be an exact replacement.

I'm not a locksmith nor do I know anything about locks.
And this is not going to be about safe cracking. Maybe just a Heads Up.
Taking my safe apart and seeing how everything works I have concluded
(no matter how many locking bars you have or how pretty the paint job is)

These "typical gun safes" are not as safe as we believe.

a1abdj (a good member here) has posted many pics of broken in safes and there is no need to expel all that energy on a break-in. I can't see a reason to drill a safe if your lock is broken.
I now know if some one wants to break in your safe and has very little knowledge, It's a 5 minute job!
I think a little discretion and keeping the safe out of sight would be a good start in safe guarding our valuables.

 

[BryanP]

If I put a safe inside a my house it's probably mounted inside a closet. If it's mounted in the garage then I'd build a cheap-looking storage cabinet shell around it.

 

[CB900F]

NVMM;

Not all safes are constructed equally. The lockworks vary widely amongst the different brands. Keep in mind I'm not speaking of the locks themselves, but all the bars, bolts, pins, hinges, and hardware that actually secure the door to the frame.

Because of those differences, knowing how to compromise one model & brand most assuredly does not transfer over to other brands or even different models within a brand. However, that being said, most RSC's are cheeseboxes. And you are correct that a little criminal knowledge is an extremely dangerous thing for the average "safe" owner.

My advice is to buy good, buy big, and buy once. The downside is that good is frequently out of the practical budget range of the person wanting protection. Therefore, any protection is better than none, but do be aware of what you're getting for the dollar spent.

Both A1abdj & I have spent a considerable amount of time & energy here trying to educate. It's an eye opener when you can confirm it yourself, right?

900F