cannon 24 gun safe

[GBExpat]

Chief,

One of my primary considerations prior to purchasing my first gunsafe ~15 years ago was how I was going to get it delivered and "installed" in my basement. While researching various products I kept seeing references to "curb side delivery" (and usually with a mention that you were responsible for getting it off of the truck ... unless you wanted to pay a $75-$100 liftgate fee) ... which, in my case, would leave me to figure out a way to get a 1000lb gunsafe from the 2-lane crowntop country road up the 80yd-long uneven gravel driveway, over the ridgeline and down the back another 40 yards to the basement door. Riiiiight.

I stumbled into an answer to that when I met a Gent at a local gunshow who was showcasing his Ft.Knox gunsafes. He told me that he also delivered them and would knock 100 bucks off of the cost if I acted as his helper during delivery so that he did not have to hire someone.

I went home and researched the Ft.Knox brand, liked what I read, decided what I needed and traded some emails with him.

Here is a pic from several years ago of that first "24-gun" Ft.Knox gunsafe that I quickly modified into a true 48-longgun gunsafe with bolt storage on the door.



2 short years later when I discovered that I (already ) needed a 2nd gunsafe , I contacted the fellow again and had him deliver a duplicate.

O'course, neither of these sports an electronic lock (CB900F may know something about the type of eLocks that Ft.Knox employs) but my little story may give you a thing or two to consider.

 

[a1abdj]

He told me that he also delivered them and would knock 100 bucks off of the cost if I acted as his helper during delivery so that he did not have to hire someone.

Sounds like a great way to kill a customer, or have a customer kill you. Sounds like another operation without the proper licensing and/or insurance as well.

 

[GBExpat]

Worked out great ... both times.

He may not offer this with every delivery. I had first discussed the location details.

He had it loaded on a pallet jack. After getting it off of the trailer (backed up to the patio slab) with the 2"-3" ramped climb over the threshold, all movement was horizontal on smooth concrete. It was all very easy and safe.

O'course, the scenario would probably push lawyer/litigation-types to the brink of a small coronary, but I was quite comfortable with the operation. So comfortable, in fact, that I did not hesitate to repeat it 2 years later.

It was certainly easier than when, ten years prior to that, I helped my cousin move his ~600lb gunsafe from his garage into his house, actually. At a couple of points that operation bordered on exciting.

 

[a1abdj]

O'course, the scenario would probably push lawyer/litigation-types to the brink of a small coronary, but I was quite comfortable with the operation. So comfortable, in fact, that I did not hesitate to repeat it 2 years later.

Of course it would. When a company without insurance has a person get injured on your property, the property owner (you) gains that liability. You would have not only been liable for your injuries, but his as well.

Things can go great 1,000,000 times. It's that one time that it doesn't go so great that you end up regretting it. It's just not worth it.

I'm always amazed at the number of people who don't even consider these things. We carry proof of insurance (vehicle, liability, workers comp, etc) in all of our trucks. On rare occasion, people will ask if we are insured, and will take our word for it. I think I have been asked for proof 1 time in the last 2 years.

I would never let a worker step foot on my property, especially while performing a dangerous task, without seeing proof of insurance.

 

[GBExpat]

I would never let a worker step foot on my property, especially while performing a dangerous task, without seeing proof of insurance.

Very good point ... this is not what I consider to be a "dangerous job", but the insurance aspect is a very good point to consider.

If I decide to buy a 3rd gunsafe from Steve, I will ask to see his company proof of insurance.

 

[Teachu2]

I owned several RSCs in the 5-600 lb category that I moved myself, but when I bought the Denali 60 (1700lbs) I was fine with the delivery charge. The three-man crew used a pair of pallet jacks to move it across the threshold and a granite tiled floor with zero damage to anything. When I moved, they picked it up, stored it a few days, and brought five guys to install it in my new home, 35 miles out of town - for $250, including bolting it down. Money well spent.

 

[a1abdj]

When I moved, they picked it up, stored it a few days, and brought five guys to install it in my new home, 35 miles out of town - for $250, including bolting it down. Money well spent.

That's an amazing deal. Not counting any other expenses, that wouldn't have even covered my payroll for the man-hours involved.

 

[CB900F]

Fella's;

The "insurance industry" has a rate-of-death probability rating for putting up a child's swing set in the back yard. And their lawyers study every day to figure out how to keep them from paying for that millionth time accident.

900F

 

[GarySTL]

Sounds like a great way to kill a customer, or have a customer kill you. Sounds like another operation without the proper licensing and/or insurance as well.

Hey! I helped when you delivered my safe in Warrenton. You said "where does it go?" And I said "Over there".

 

[HighExpert]

I had the S&G manual lock on my Ft. Knox fail after 20 years. I replaced it myself with a new electronic lock that cost $140.00, not ten. If the battery runs down, replace it, the lock still works. The one advantage I think the electronics have is speed. When you have to get in now the electronic lock is faster.

 

[a1abdj]

Hey! I helped when you delivered my safe in Warrenton. You said "where does it go?" And I said "Over there".

I know. That's why I charged extra!

 

[tiamat]

I had the S&G manual lock on my Ft. Knox fail after 20 years. I replaced it myself with a new electronic lock that cost $140.00, not ten. If the battery runs down, replace it, the lock still works. The one advantage I think the electronics have is speed. When you have to get in now the electronic lock is faster.

This is how I feel too. I know the electronic lock is not going to last as long as the steel box it's attached to, but I'll gladly pay the extra $7/year for the convenience of getting into my safe in 6 seconds.

 

[ColtPythonElite]

I like the ease of changing the combination with electronic locks.

 

[Jim Watson]

I have the Ft Knox "Redundant Lock System" with both keypad and dial.
The keypad is convenient for regular use, but the dial is backup in case the digital forgets what to do. I open it on the dial about once a week just to keep the combination in my head. The numbers are the same but the entry differs.

I just this week replaced the keypad battery. No problem.