Convincing my father in law

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Appalachiannative

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My father in law hunts squirrels exclusively. He uses .22 rifles exclusively. He owns a pre WWII Winchester 94 in 30-30 that he didn't even pay for. His father in law gave it to him as a gift. He never fires it at all and doesn't seem interested in it at all. So... What's a polite way to go about convincing him to sell it to me? He collects vintage rare .22s so the 30-30 just really ain't his style but the guy can be kinda funny to deal with. Any suggestions?
 
I want your 30-30. I like it and you don’t use it. How much for me to have it?


Negotiating tactics:

1. Say what you want first.
2. Set the facts out straight.
3. Ask a question that can’t be answered no.
4. Don’t press. You want to have it not own it.
5. If he beats around the bush, assert that you, and you really want an answer. are serious
 
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Ignition Override said:
If he's Not the kind of guy who mostly sees other people as "self-propelled dollar signs", you have a reasonable chance, using your version of a "gun show poker face".

Is the wood half-way attractive?
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The wood looks beautiful. All the wear you would expect giving it's age and some hair line cracks but nothing that would make it structurally in sound. The metal has lost all it's blue, bright and shiny in some spots but mostly patina and 0 rust that I can see
 
Swampman said:
Just ask him.

If he doesn't want to sell/give it to you just let it go.

Sometimes people want to keep firearms for their own reasons whether or not it seems logical to others.
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That is a great point. Biggest reason I want it is my first rifle that was bigger than a .22 was a win 94 and it burned up in a house fire a long with my first gun (marlin model 60) and first handgun ( Ruger p95) never liked the marlin but I've been trying to replace the other two
 
My dad has a sears Ted Williams i think. 30/30 he bought from the neighbor kid. Years ago. He don't shoot it. I asked a couple of times if he would sell it to me. His answer as always. ''You will get all my guns when i die.'' My brother never had an interest in guns. Until a few years ago. So now i don't what will happen with my dads guns. He has a Garand too. I would love to have. His 760 30.06 is the deluxe model. It still looks great. He takes deer every year with it.
 
CoalCrackerAl said:
My dad has a sears Ted Williams i think. 30/30 he bought from the neighbor kid. Years ago. He don't shoot it. I asked a couple of times if he would sell it to me. His answer as always. ''You will get all my guns when i die.'' My brother never had an interest in guns. Until a few years ago. So now i don't what will happen with my dads guns. He has a Garand too. I would love to have. His 760 30.06 is the deluxe model. It still looks great. He takes deer every year with it.
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Man that would bum me out him saying it like that. I'd tell him that's nothing to look forward too.
 
CoalCrackerAl said:
Yeah it is a tough answer. I don't want him to pass for a long time yet. He's 78 now. But still active. I think he will be around for a while.
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Keep him active. Do stuff with him. My uncle had to go through loosing his father when he was in his 20s and his old man (my step grandpa) was in his 50's. Meanwhile I work with a guy who is in his 80's that don't want to retire. Keeping on keeping on keeps them goin I feel like
 
My mom and brother keep him active. They have an antique shop. My mom said she's retiring and sold the shop. Last time she retired. It lasted 6 months. She was going crazy not working. I asked her what she's going to do this time. If she gets restless. She already is going to be working with the folks she sold the shop to. I live 70 miles away from my parents. When i do go down. We usually cut some firewood. He always loved cutting wood.
 
You could do what my kids do when the borrow money, borrow it and forget to pay it back . I am kidding of course.

I think I would just be straight up. Hey I noticed you have a 30/30 you don’t use and I have been wanting one. Would you be interested in trading, selling, etc ?

dave
 
I usually use this phrase. "If you should ever decide to sell I hope I'm your first call". Letting him know in some way that you really admire it and would like to get it out for some exercise vs sitting in a closet, maybe ask him if you could borrow it to shoot a few times would give you some time to shoot it and enjoy it and possibly give him some time to think "well what the hell do I need with it anyway, I never shoot it and he seems to really admire it".
 
On the other hand I know some people who don't value something at all and would be likely to sell for a song but as soon as someone shows interest in it, it takes on a whole new value of its own to the owner and all the sudden the thing they felt was "junk" or "unwanted clutter" becomes a treasure.....
 
DustyGMT: you described people who suddenly act as if their items are treasures—- only because other people want the items.

Thats part of what occurred to me in my remarks about “seeing people as self-propelled dollar signs”.

Your description is actually what I tried to say—-
 
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