Convincing my father in law

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I can respect that point. I just don't see why you would wanna keep something you don't even like this keeping it away from someone who would appreciate it
If he still has it, he has a reason.

May just be he RESPECTS the man who gave it to him. It may not have anything to do with shooting it.

Think about it this way, WHY would he want to give it to YOU? Apparently the person who gave it to him, respected him. Do YOU respect him? How would he face the guy who gave it to HIM if it winds up in a yard sale a year from now?
 
Tell your wife to tell her father that you'd like to have a nice deer rifle and ask him if he has any suggestions. If he doesn't offer the 30-30 then you know where you stand.
Wow, amazed, I never really thought that highly of gun boards before and you still managed to disappoint me.

Any wormy kid that did that, I'd never speak to him again. I'd expect him to have a dork knob and wear skinny jeans.
 
Wow, amazed, I never really thought that highly of gun boards before and you still managed to disappoint me.

Any wormy kid that did that, I'd never speak to him again. I'd expect him to have a dork knob and wear skinny jeans.
I didn't like that suggestion either but I didn't presume to know about the character of that person either. I don't just assume you to be a bitter person who hates everything about my generation but from what I can tell you seem to be bothered by the same stuff about a lot of people my age that I am. I assure you that if I ever had the rifle it would never be sold because I had one as my first gun and it was lost in a house fire. with all do respect I think you'd be in a better mood if you were less quick to anger at a stranger you don't know. That's what disappoints ME the most about gun boards and the internet in general. Ps I respect my FIL MORE than MY old man as he's been like a real dad to me. Please don't presume to know me or anyone else when you don't sir
Respectfully app native
 
Show up with a pile of .22 ammo and tell him you thought he aught to have it since that is his favorite. Don't even mention the 30-30...
Ain't trying to do something underhanded. Normally I wouldn't even ask someone to sell something that was a gift I just know he doesn't even like the gun or the person he got it from. Besides he stock piled .22 lr and short years ago
 
That's no man-killin' gun! It's a deer killin' gun, and I need one. Jane and I need the venison this year. We're saving up for a __________ (you fill in the blank).

Would you loan it to me?
 
Tell your wife to tell her father that you'd like to have a nice deer rifle and ask him if he has any suggestions. If he doesn't offer the 30-30 then you know where you stand.

Yeah you gotta go through the wife he is her dad. No matter how much you want it you shouldn't be the one asking him to give you his stuff. But I have a bit of a different way to go about it. You stated
His father in law gave it to him as a gift.

so if she is up for it have you wife talk to him and go "Daddy you know how grandpa (or whatever your wife calls her moms dad) gave you that rifle? Well I thought it would be sweet if you made it into a family tradition and did the same and gave it to Appalachiannative. What do you think daddy? Is that something you would want to do?"

Assuming your wife doesn't have an older sister who also has a husband that he might choose to give it to instead to establish a tradition I think this is the best option. If he dose have another son-in-law that may have a better claim then I would go with 1943bull's answer
I want your 30-30. I like it and you don’t use it. How much for me to have it?


Negotiating tactics:

1. Say what you want first.
2. Set the facts out straight.
3. Ask a question that can’t be answered no.
4. Don’t press. You want to have it not own it.
5. If he beats around the bush, assert that you, and you really want an answer. are serious
Best of luck to you!
 
Yeah you gotta go through the wife he is her dad. No matter how much you want it you shouldn't be the one asking him to give you his stuff. But I have a bit of a different way to go abouf she is up for it have you wife talk to him and go "Daddy you know how grandpa (or whatever your wife calls her moms dad) gave you that rifle? Well I thought it would be sweet if you made it into a family tradition and did the same and gave it to Appalachiannative. What do you think daddy? Is that something you would want to do?"

Assuming your wife doesn't have an older sister who also has a husband that he might choose to give it to instead to establish a tradition I think this is the best option. If he dose have another son-in-law that may have a better claim then I would go with 1943bull's answer

Best of luck to you!
I ain't hiding behind mamas apron like that. If I ask him it will be man to man. I just know he don't see eye to eye with his father in law. If gramps give you something he's just rubbing in you face all the stuff he has you don't so I figure he just hangs on to it as a reminder. Can't believe how popular this thread is. Feel like I opened a can of worms. Probably won't go threw with the whole thing. I just really admire the old 94s that eject from the top and only have a half cock safety and anything fr the 30s or 40s is usually out of my price range. Thought I could get a deal from someone who don't even want it but now the whole thing seems wrong
 
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Yeah you gotta go through the wife he is her dad. No matter how much you want it you shouldn't be the one asking him to give you his stuff. But I have a bit of a different way to go about it. You stated


so if she is up for it have you wife talk to him and go "Daddy you know how grandpa (or whatever your wife calls her moms dad) gave you that rifle? Well I thought it would be sweet if you made it into a family tradition and did the same and gave it to Appalachiannative. What do you think daddy? Is that something you would want to do?"

Assuming your wife doesn't have an older sister who also has a husband that he might choose to give it to instead to establish a tradition I think this is the best option. If he dose have another son-in-law that may have a better claim then I would go with 1943bull's answer

Best of luck to you!
Naw her sister ain't married. Too much of a feminist fruity loop. But still of he ever wants to give me the thing it would be my most prized possession. In the firearms Dept at least. More I think about it asking him to sell just seems wrong asking about it at all does. Thanks everyone for the suggestions even the sneaky ones that made my skin crawl
 
Why not be direct and to the point? Tell him one of your first and most cherished rifles was a 94 Winchester that was lost in a house fire and you are looking to replace it as you are the other 2 lost. Then ask “Is there any way he would consider selling” his? And if not, to please keep his eyes open for another one.
 
Umm.. it’s the perfect season. Just look at it admiringly and mutter “I wish Santa would get me that for Christmas…”
 
The theme of this post was and I'll paraphrase "my father in law can be kinda funny to deal with. Any suggestions? The theme of the post wasn't "make a suggestion so others can criticize it." For those that didn't understand the theme, perhaps in the future you will and "Take the High Road."
 
Since it was a gift it probably has sentimental value to him and is the reason he keeps it. A friend gave me one long ago and I keep it for that reason and I will never sell it just because of the memories it brings.

If I were in the OP's shoes I would forget about this particular rife and buy one somewhere else. It's not like there is a scarcity of them.
 
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My father in law hunts squirrels exclusively. He uses .22 rifles exclusively. He owns a pre WWII Winchester 94 in 30-30 that he didn't even pay for. His father in law gave it to him as a gift. He never fires it at all and doesn't seem interested in it at all. So... What's a polite way to go about convincing him to sell it to me? He collects vintage rare .22s so the 30-30 just really ain't his style but the guy can be kinda funny to deal with. Any suggestions?
If he hasn’t mentioned it yet then maybe he doesn’t like you that much and saving it for your replacement.:oops:
 
The theme of this post was and I'll paraphrase "my father in law can be kinda funny to deal with. Any suggestions? The theme of the post wasn't "make a suggestion so others can criticize it." For those that didn't understand the theme, perhaps in the future you will and "Take the High Road."
Regardless of the theme, any post online is open to criticism. Take what info that helps you out, skip the rest. You're online. In a public forum.

OP asked for "a polite way". That was the "theme". Some suggestions here, at least in my neck of the woods, would very easily turn off a fella.

The "let me know if you ever decide to sell it" approach seems polite enough to me. If you need to be super direct over someone else's gun that's not even for sale then I recommend buying your own gun that is for sale.
 
I would go the direct route. I would say that you admired the 30-30 and would be honored if you could buy it from him if he was not going to use it as it would mean a lot coming from him. Somethimg you could pass on to family in the future or such. Then drop it if he declines.
 
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