Elkins45
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I’m getting ready to submit my pistol brace application and I hate to drive an hour and pay $40 to do prints so I ordered some cards and am going to give it a try myself. Any tips on how to do an acceptable job?
Exactly.I didn't realize you were able to do your own prints, how do they know that the prints are from the person actually filling out the form?
You're supposed to have the prints verified by someone. There is a box on the fingerprint card for such a purpose. In reality I can't recall any of our cards (32 total between my wife and I, IIRC) having that box checked. All of our paperwork has been approved.Exactly.
If you're permitted to roll your own prints I have to believe the submission means nothing.
how do they know that the prints are from the person actually filling out the form?
--- snip--- how do they know that the prints are from the person actually filling out the form?
Well, you are allowed to fill out the form by yourself.Exactly.
If you're permitted to roll your own prints I have to believe the submission means nothing.
Says who?You're supposed to have the prints verified by someone.
Its a standard FBI fingerprint card used for different purposes by many different agencies.There is a box on the fingerprint card for such a purpose. In reality I can't recall any of our cards (32 total between my wife and I, IIRC) having that box checked. All of our paperwork has been approved.
The stiffest penalty for noncompliance is your Form 1 or Form 4 is disapproved.... The issue lies in the fact that non-compliance has some rather stiff penalties associated with it.
Aren't your finger prints attached to a named individual (you)...................??
FWIW: How old are you and what is your type of job? Why would I ask?
I had to go to a sheriffs Office for my CCW. They did 'e-prints', same as rolling your own but on a glass plate that registers on their computer. Am so old that my firnger tips are worn down to the point they took over an hour (two techs) just to get a clean set (less one little finger).
So, you may or may not be able to get clear prints if you are 'old' or do work like masonry where the cement has 'eaten' off your finger prints.
NOTE: Wish the LE computers talked to each other.....my prints have breen on file from holding a security clearance, getting a CCW in CT (FBI) and now in CA (FBI) from over 30 years of finger printing.
Well, you are allowed to fill out the form by yourself.
The point being?
Common misconception.The point is, (my assumption is) that fingerprints are being collected to verify identity, check for any criminal arrests which would prohibit ownership, or disqualify one from whatever type of “license” is being applied for. All providing that persons fingerprints are already on file.
Absolutely correct.Licensing / application type applicant fingerprint cards submitted to the FBI are collected on card number FD-258 and are submitted to the FBI thru the various states record repositories or approved agencies. Most all states have regulations that specify the type of “official” that can collect and submit fingerprints for licensing / applications and most do not allow individuals to fingerprint themselves. There is a specific area on the card for the date and signature of the “official” who has collected the prints.
for the submission of ATF allows for electronic scanned fingerprints as long as they are in the approved format.That is the "Livescan" system. However, the ATF wants old-fashioned fingerprint cards.
I order them by the hundreds and give a dozen or so to customers that prefer rolling their own for that same reason.They even send them to you for free. I ordered four, the reasoning is that if I only order the requisite number, of two, something is sure to go wrong. However, the presence of spares reduces the impact of Murphey's law.