In no way shape or form is a delta elite worth its weight in horse dung. Had one, and would never suggest it to anybody. If Glock chamber support concerns a man, then similar (possibly worse) chamber support for a high pressure cartridge that people like to hot rod should be an instant and firm hell no. It was for me, and mine went down the road quickly.1200 will get you close to a Delta Elite. Worth the few extra coins...
Agree with the fact they're good quality. Just think finding any DW in the OPs $1200 price point is a big ask.Check out Dan Wesson. I have a Govt model and a CCO In 10 mm.
Darn fine guns.
You need to revise your history. The 10mm was the brainchild of Jeff Cooper working with others. It first came out in 1983, and originally in the Dornus and Dixon Bren 10. The company failed, primarily due to inability to deliver magazines, or functional pistols.In no way shape or form is a delta elite worth its weight in horse dung. Had one, and would never suggest it to anybody. If Glock chamber support concerns a man, then similar (possibly worse) chamber support for a high pressure cartridge that people like to hot rod should be an instant and firm hell no. It was for me, and mine went down the road quickly.
Literally everybody else doing a 10mm 1911 has better chamber support and therefore a safer product.
Now for a quick history lesson. 10mm was dreamed up and sought after for government agency distribution including FBI. The government contract interest drove companies to essentially have a dragrace to market. Colt won the race by simply sticking a different barrel in the 1911, changing magazine feedlips to make that work for the skinny round, and then beefing up the recoil spring when the gun beat itself to death. Everybody else actually developed a platform for the round… Colt said “hold my beer” then proceeded to use a pry bar and a pair of pliers. Because of their halfassery they beat everybody else to market and got big contracts for a pistol that should never have made it to market. They quickly found out that the 10mm was too much for the frames and had to make minor modifications to the way that they made some of the cuts which essentially had previously directed all of the forces to a tiny point and caused the frames to break. Shortly after this Bren and S&W made it to market with better products and anybody with any sense whatsoever traded in their delta for anything else.
But yeah… prancing pony is the greatest ever… more like jumping jackass, or malcontent mule if you will.
Ok, Bren may have made the first pistols, but while trying to mass market they were developing the production abilities and died. Either way, Colt rushed the gun to production to be first to mass market. They took major shortcuts, and nearly 40 years later they still just flat don’t care. Doesn’t matter if Bill Dance and Jeff Foxworthy teamed up with Richard Petty as Colts competition, the point remains that they used their size and clout along with a pisspoor product to get a govt contract and just said that it’s good enough.You need to revise your history. The 10mm was the brainchild of Jeff Cooper working with others. It first came out in 1983, and originally in the Dornus and Dixon Bren 10. The company failed, primarily due to inability to deliver magazines, or functional pistols.
Colt picked it up in 1986, and released the Delta Elite. It was poorly adapted to the Norma ammunition which was loaded to far above current SAAMI specifications (Norma uses C.I.P. standards].
The FBI adopted the S&W 1076 a shortened d/an only version of the 1006 in 1990, using reduced power ammunition.
What Government contact did Colt go after?Ok, Bren may have made the first pistols, but while trying to mass market they were developing the production abilities and died. Either way, Colt rushed the gun to production to be first to mass market. They took major shortcuts, and nearly 40 years later they still just flat don’t care. Doesn’t matter if Bill Dance and Jeff Foxworthy teamed up with Richard Petty as Colts competition, the point remains that they used their size and clout along with a pisspoor product to get a govt contract and just said that it’s good enough.
If a phillipino company can build one today that is arguably a better gun and sell it for 1/3 the price after paying tariffs and overseas freight then shame on Colt for not fixing the problem 30+ years ago.
For the life of me, I can’t figure out how Colt got away with this flaw when Glock did the same thing a few years later and got raked over the coals for it.
My point is made, I’m done in this thread.
The one for the Miami Vice unit.What Government contact did Colt go after?
Well, if he wants American-made, the best, most durable all-steel 10mms are the S&W 10XX-series guns.
I would recommend this one too, but it's not American made.Tisas D-10 was actually nicer and under $600.