Dog Soldier
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I have 10 Ruger Old Army revolvers. I bought most of them at gun shows. They were very cheap for some time. ROAs are getting more expensive and harder to find.
The RUGER OLD ARMY Club
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moparclan
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Some of those sellers helped me get a couple of needed parts. Saw a polished short barrel fixed sight ROA go for $1500 the other day!
Two blue short barrel on GB right now starting at $700 and $900.
Maybe I should part with my two consecutive numbered Talo Horse Pistols.
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Two blue short barrel on GB right now starting at $700 and $900.
Maybe I should part with my two consecutive numbered Talo Horse Pistols.
SUMIKITO
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ROA's out in the marketplace.........
One thing is for sure. The supply of ROA's is dwindling day by day. You may think not, but the ones you see in the 'market place' are a lot of pistols just going around in circles. Bought today. Sold next week. Everyone just trying to make a buck. Some buying to 'perfect their pistols by swapping out the best parts. Some buying to actually use and fire the pistol. Many buyers just wanting to 'test the waters'. It is a variety of sellers and buyers out there. The only serious people looking into this great pistol happen to be members of this club. And that is what keeps "the fire" going. A lot of the fixed sight models are going into the Cowboy Shooting Crowd. Great then ! At least they are used, fired, and enjoyed. But let us not forget that the availability possible today, may not be the case in the near future. So keep your pistols in good shape fellows. Keep the pristine examples pristine.keep the NIB's in the safe. Or under your mattress. Train your big dog to sleep on it when you are away.Cherish your ROA.You all damn know it is a great pistol !! You will be glad you did. Five years from now. Ten or twenty years from now.
One thing is for sure. The supply of ROA's is dwindling day by day. You may think not, but the ones you see in the 'market place' are a lot of pistols just going around in circles. Bought today. Sold next week. Everyone just trying to make a buck. Some buying to 'perfect their pistols by swapping out the best parts. Some buying to actually use and fire the pistol. Many buyers just wanting to 'test the waters'. It is a variety of sellers and buyers out there. The only serious people looking into this great pistol happen to be members of this club. And that is what keeps "the fire" going. A lot of the fixed sight models are going into the Cowboy Shooting Crowd. Great then ! At least they are used, fired, and enjoyed. But let us not forget that the availability possible today, may not be the case in the near future. So keep your pistols in good shape fellows. Keep the pristine examples pristine.keep the NIB's in the safe. Or under your mattress. Train your big dog to sleep on it when you are away.Cherish your ROA.You all damn know it is a great pistol !! You will be glad you did. Five years from now. Ten or twenty years from now.
J-Bar
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Well said, my friend!
I'd love to see your stock if you don't mind.
I have thought of having a stock made in which one grip panel is replaced being the stock that is of a standard length to keep the action further from your face. I'm not sure it would be strong enough in the area wrapping around the backstrap though.
I have thought of having a stock made in which one grip panel is replaced being the stock that is of a standard length to keep the action further from your face. I'm not sure it would be strong enough in the area wrapping around the backstrap though.
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45 Dragoon
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Just picked up another blued ROA with a Ruger flap holster and nipple wrench for $425.00! Prices aren't all that bad guys!!! Lol!!
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Clements conversion
New to muzzleloading but an experienced hunter with rifle, shotgun and pistol.
I am having Clements Custom Guns convert my SS Ruger Old Army to .50 cal (necessary for hunting with a muzzleloading pistol).
Suggested ballistics:
170 gr. .490 ball loaded with 50 grains Hodgdon 777 = 1250 fps
OR
250 gr. .488 SWC conical with 50 grains Hodgdon 777 = 1150 fps
for eastern US / Canada big game (deer, black bear, elk, caribou)
1st, looking at all the supplies I need: Will .45 wads and cylinder seals work? (its hard to find .50 cal pistol stuff).
2nd, Can I substitute the new Pyrodex .50 cal / 50 grain pellets for the H777?
(easier reloads in the field)
Note the .50 cal cylinders are deepened to accept the larger ammo and loads.
The new barrel and cylinder are custom machined billet. Cylinder is 5 shot non-fluted for strength.
See www.clementscustomguns.com
New to muzzleloading but an experienced hunter with rifle, shotgun and pistol.
I am having Clements Custom Guns convert my SS Ruger Old Army to .50 cal (necessary for hunting with a muzzleloading pistol).
Suggested ballistics:
170 gr. .490 ball loaded with 50 grains Hodgdon 777 = 1250 fps
OR
250 gr. .488 SWC conical with 50 grains Hodgdon 777 = 1150 fps
for eastern US / Canada big game (deer, black bear, elk, caribou)
1st, looking at all the supplies I need: Will .45 wads and cylinder seals work? (its hard to find .50 cal pistol stuff).
2nd, Can I substitute the new Pyrodex .50 cal / 50 grain pellets for the H777?
(easier reloads in the field)
Note the .50 cal cylinders are deepened to accept the larger ammo and loads.
The new barrel and cylinder are custom machined billet. Cylinder is 5 shot non-fluted for strength.
See www.clementscustomguns.com
SUMIKITO
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A Ruger Old Army with regular round ball or heavier cast bullets loaded with a full max load of Triple 7 or Swiss FFF will and has taken North American big game just fine. A well placed shot to the vitals is all you need ! .. It aint wimpy at all.A fine gun it is. Yes sir, it is .
DJWorm: Once converted the .45 cal accessories will be useless. Wads are generally used to hold lubrication when using a ball. I've considered trying them as a filler to move the projectile closer to the mouth of the chambers. You will need .50 cal wads once converted, and if you can get a custom punch (I know a retired machinists who does such on another forum) what you'd want is ~.0490" wads (slightly larger than chamber size for a friction fit that will fill the grooves).
The powder charges used for the bullets is 45 grns and not 50 as with a ball.
I'm not certain as to the diameter of the .50 cal Hodgdon pellets. These are made for a rifle with a true .50 cal bore (lands) whereas yours is a actually about 0.485". They may not fit.
These guns typically have a more accurate charge. This can be found by using loose powder whereas with a pellet you get what you get. My stock Ruger is more accurate with 35 grns of 3F Triple 7 but can hold a max of 45 grns (40 with true black powder as it compresses more readily).
There are reload tubes available to help with simplicity afield. Once an accurate charge is found these reusable tubes can be used to hold them for later use without the need for a flask and measure. Some are of the design intended for inlines which are a cylinder with a top. Another is a rubber tube where the projectile is seated in it to hold the powder in place. Also paper cartridges can be made. If you really wanted to get technical you could even weigh your powder for less deviation...
I was unable to find a pic of his .50 cal bullet, but it seems it's of a Keith-style design, which ought to be excellent. If not, or you'd prefer more/less weight Accurate Molds is an excellent place to work up a custom design, which I have done for my percussion revolvers.
I've always loved this customized Ruger. The price to convert is a bit steep for me though, and at .45 cal it is plenty big and powerful.
The powder charges used for the bullets is 45 grns and not 50 as with a ball.
I'm not certain as to the diameter of the .50 cal Hodgdon pellets. These are made for a rifle with a true .50 cal bore (lands) whereas yours is a actually about 0.485". They may not fit.
These guns typically have a more accurate charge. This can be found by using loose powder whereas with a pellet you get what you get. My stock Ruger is more accurate with 35 grns of 3F Triple 7 but can hold a max of 45 grns (40 with true black powder as it compresses more readily).
There are reload tubes available to help with simplicity afield. Once an accurate charge is found these reusable tubes can be used to hold them for later use without the need for a flask and measure. Some are of the design intended for inlines which are a cylinder with a top. Another is a rubber tube where the projectile is seated in it to hold the powder in place. Also paper cartridges can be made. If you really wanted to get technical you could even weigh your powder for less deviation...
I was unable to find a pic of his .50 cal bullet, but it seems it's of a Keith-style design, which ought to be excellent. If not, or you'd prefer more/less weight Accurate Molds is an excellent place to work up a custom design, which I have done for my percussion revolvers.
I've always loved this customized Ruger. The price to convert is a bit steep for me though, and at .45 cal it is plenty big and powerful.
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Timtoolman
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i love my .50 Clements, I have been casting the conical from the mold he sells. Yes it can be construed its a Keith design. It packs a wallop.I roll paper cartridges (bullet &powder) no issues yet
Dog Soldier
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I would recommend the New Slix X nipples. They are a new innovation. You don't need the Ruger wrench.
https://www.badmanbullets.com/cowboygunparts.com/cap-&-ball-nipples.html
https://www.badmanbullets.com/cowboygunparts.com/cap-&-ball-nipples.html
Timtoolman
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I have both seems slix shot works better
Timtoolman
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Ignition seems quicker. Theey are a few thousandths longer. And Dave moves the Hammer closer 5 thou. To nipples never had a misfire with either brand yet
Dog Soldier
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The Slix has an improved flame path. It delivers a powerful flame. Fire a cap at a sheet of paper near the muzzle with both "Vents". You can see the difference.
noelf2
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Mike I know I said I wasn't interested in the ROA, but I managed to get an unfired pristine blued example at the Fredericksburg VA gun show today. Now I have to learn a new gun...??
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Not to worry !! it's a short learning curve!!
Congrats !
You have the most versatile platform for any S.A. ever made!!
Explanations will be forthcoming .
Mike
Congrats !
You have the most versatile platform for any S.A. ever made!!
Explanations will be forthcoming .
Mike
All this talk of the Slix nipples lead me to the website.
I saw a product called a Slix-Ram. It is an extended loading ram for our favourite pistols.
Has anyone ever used one? I would like to hear from round ball folks who may have reduced the powder charge with this longer ram. I like my 30 grains of 3F American Pioneer, but I only have to hit the steel gongs - not shoot right thru them!
Thanks,
Stewbud
I saw a product called a Slix-Ram. It is an extended loading ram for our favourite pistols.
Has anyone ever used one? I would like to hear from round ball folks who may have reduced the powder charge with this longer ram. I like my 30 grains of 3F American Pioneer, but I only have to hit the steel gongs - not shoot right thru them!
Thanks,
Stewbud
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