Which 1911 45 in this scenario

CapnMac said:

There's a possibility that these "knock offs" will be spoken of in the way the Norincos are, just will be two or three decades from now.

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Doubtful.. Only reasons Norinco's hold an allure is because they were banned from import.

1KPerDay said:

Whatever Dan Wesson you can find

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x2 on that. a used DW by a mile.

S.Crockett said:

Agree on the pre-owned Colt. … Not only will the Pony retain its value after purchase, but might arguably return the price paid down the road to the OP on re-sale, or even a bit more, unless purposely abused.

A Ruger 1911 shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same post as the Colt.

The DW 1911s that were mentioned above are one of the better-made clones out there but are still overpriced, polished clones at best. Retained value, therefore, will be less than a Colt on resale or trade.

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Always amuses when Colt fans trash any other brand for being over priced.

Im in the look for a used DW camp. I’ve found a few over the years, most recently a Valkyrie for $950, but that was a few years back.

I’d put (and have) the old Valor up against about anything under $2k, possibly even higher. Can’t speak for the new Valors though, haven’t shot one yet.

JR24 said:

Always amuses when Colt fans trash any other brand for being over priced.
Im in the look for a used DW camp. I’ve found a few over the years, most recently a Valkyrie for $950, but that was a few years back.
I’d put (and have) the old Valor up against about anything under $2k, possibly even higher. Can’t speak for the new Valors though, haven’t shot one yet.

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Pretty sure your DW cloney can’t touch this Pony, … although a Marine did, allegedly:

Rock Island for 500 bucks and spend the rest on ammo for my glock

mshootnit said:

OK here is the scenario. You have a maximu. of $1250 OTD to spend on any 1911 45 ACP due to tax return.
Which one do you buy and why?

But it has to be maximum $1250 tax included. Best handgun for the money

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If used is an option, look for an ORM (Old Roll Mark) Colt 1991.
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S.Crockett said:

Pretty sure your DW cloney can’t touch this Pony, … although a Marine did, allegedly:

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Those have plastic MSH like the Rail Guns do?

I would like to see one of those models and see if they are worth the $1000+ mark up they get over the Colt Rail Gun, maybe they are worth the price

JR24 said:

Those have plastic MSH like the Rail Guns do?
I would like to see one of those models and see if they are worth the $1000+ mark up they get over the Colt Rail Gun, maybe they are worth the price

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Different rail, different MSH, and different grips than the CRG. All steel, no MIM.

Combat-grade Pony.

S.Crockett said:

Different rail, different MSH, and different grips than the CRG. All steel, no MIM.

Combat-grade Pony.

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Let's just hope CZ will let their DW folks remind their Colt folks how to build quality stuff. Like the guy who buys a new Wrangler cause he always wanted one. Sorry, you didn't buy a real Jeep. You bought a minivan with round headlights.

My Colt Competition has been a great gun. Years ago I had a Springfield Loaded that was awesome. I also had a Springfield Milspec about 10 years ago to build out. I abandoned that plan and sold it though. All three were very well made and reliable handguns. The only thing I plan on changing with my Colt is the front sight. Im not a fan of the fiber optic.

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CapnMac said:

RIA, ARMSCOR, and TISAS offer versions with a pile of the "cool kids" bells and whistles, typically in three sizes and three calibers--all of those in the US$600-700 range.

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RIA and Armscor are the same company (Philippines).

The Kahr/Thompson/Auto Ordnance is in the same price range, and it's American-made. Unlike the others, it has the Series 80 firing pin safety.

Here's the GI version of the Kahr (branded "Auto-Ordnance Corp., Worcester, MA"). Some actual GI parts substituted.





The Series 80 firing pin safety removed. To do this, you have to use a special spacer in the frame.

entropy said:

A Taurus PT1911 Commander and the rest on ammo.

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The Taurus version of the 1911 went off on its own tangent. I guess that's an acquired taste.

JR24 said:

I would like to see one of those models and see if they are worth the $1000+ mark up they get over the Colt Rail Gun, maybe they are worth the price

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That will depend on you. I own the Custom Shop version and it’s okay. The cerakote does indeed suck. Nothing special when I compare it to one of my “cloneys” as Mr Miami Vice seems to like to proclaim.

I would by a Colt or Springfield Armory 1911 in that price range.

Colt Commander, Govt. model series 70 about $900.00.

If you have time to be patient, consider one of the discontinued single stack STI 1911s. A good used Trojan might be found in your price range.

hk940 said:

Colt Commander, Govt. model series 70 about $900.00.

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Word right there.

hk940 said:

Colt Commander, Govt. model series 70 about $900.00.

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Eh, if it has to be a Colt I’d spend just a little more for a Competition. Get all those little ease of shooting improvements like user friendly sights, extended beavertail and better safety.

At least for me, those are things I want in a 1911. I’ve had enough slide and hammer bite in my life to put up with it for anything short of a WWII era 1911.

I cannot develop the warm fuzzies for any 1911 with a rail built onto it although it appears that many like them. Oh well, more none railed 1911s for me to choose from if I want another.