Vista Outdoors ammunition family of brands is now foreign owned.

He did say America a LOT. The Czechs are solid gun people (usually) so I hope this doesn't turn into a dumpster fire. May be better than another hedge fund company buying them up just to run them into the ground.

Translation: We were unable to continue to make it on our own, and the buyers were ready with cash.

Ohen Cepel said:

He did say America a LOT. The Czechs are solid gun people (usually) so I hope this doesn't turn into a dumpster fire. May be better than another hedge fund company buying them up just to run them into the ground.

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Amen, hopefully, as what happened to Remington. That situation is a poster child for the term " Greed " . I`ve always believed Remington could have weathered its legal issues if it had maintained ownership that gave a damn about the company and the shooting sports.

Colt and Dan Wesson are owned by Czech companies. No one here has much bad to say about CZ guns. And I use a LOT of eastern euro ammo.

I appreciate their keeping manufacturers in the US. I appreciate they are way less woke and flighty than many American corporations today.

I would prefer these companies be held by Americans, but I ultimately want them controlled by people who support shooting sports 100%.

Buzznrose said:

Colt and Dan Wesson are owned by Czech companies. No one here has much bad to say about CZ guns. And I use a LOT of eastern euro ammo.

I appreciate their keeping manufacturers in the US. I appreciate they are way less woke and flighty than many American corporations today.

I would prefer these companies be held by Americans, but I ultimately want them controlled by people who support shooting sports 100%.

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My favorite .223 round is made in Australia.

At least they are now owned by company focused on firearms rather than a conglomerate that also makes bicycle helmets, camping stoves, and backpacks.

Translation........ America is no longer a super power.

The problem with American ownership is that it's mostly been by people who have no interest in firearms-related products. They've been run into the ground by investment groups. Too bad Ruger can't buy them all.

CraigC said:

The problem with American ownership is that it's mostly been by people who have no interest in firearms-related products. They've been run into the ground by investment groups. Too bad Ruger can't buy them all.

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Ruger is no longer privately held…it has to answer to shareholders too. That’s scary in itself.

The one gun company who is really trying to build out the American firearms owner is, without question, Palmetto State Armory. There is no comparison that I can find. They are the ONLY American firearms manufacturer who is filing amicus briefs in support of court cases that they have no direct involvement.


Their mission is arming American citizens.

All others are simply, at best, enthusiasts trying to make a buck selling guns.

Shame.....time will tell.

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Ruger is no longer privately held…it has to answer to shareholders too. That’s scary in itself.

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Huge difference between being owned by an investment group and being answerable to shareholders.

Buzznrose said:

Ruger is no longer privately held…it has to answer to shareholders too. That’s scary in itself.

The one gun company who is really trying to build out the American firearms owner is, without question, Palmetto State Armory. There is no comparison that I can find. They are the ONLY American firearms manufacturer who is filing amicus briefs in support of court cases that they have no direct involvement.

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Their mission is arming American citizens.

All others are simply, at best, enthusiasts trying to make a buck selling guns.

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Good to know, thanks. I always thought of them as only a place to buy AR build parts from. I'll have to check them out.

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Huge difference between being owned by an investment group and being answerable to shareholders.

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There is also a huge difference between being privately and publicly owned. Look at Cabela’s. All it took was as a rogue investor and they went to crap on the forced merger with BPS.

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The problem with American ownership is that it's mostly been by people who have no interest in firearms-related products. They've been run into the ground by investment groups. Too bad Ruger can't buy them all.

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Investment groups and bean-counters.

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Translation........ America is no longer a super power.

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It isn't the first time a major arms company is foreign owned.

At the height of the US crushing the Soviets under Reaganomics, in June 1987 to be exact. Tomkins plc (UK company) paid $112.5 million to purchase Smith & Wesson. Tomkins modernized the production equipment and instituted additional testing which significantly increased product quality.

Later, in the late 1990s, Tomkins signed the agreement with the Clinton Administration. Which caused the boycott and that causes Tomkins to sell S&W for pennies on the dollar to Saf-T-Hammer (US company). Who spawned the abomination that is the Hillary Hole and forever staining S&W revolvers. And they still own S&W to this day.

Oh well

When I inquired about buying Ruger stock,my "financial advisor " asked "who are they". When I replied and explained what they did she was a little hesitant but I bought 50 shares. I still have them and since then she commented " wish I had thought of that"

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I appreciate their keeping manufacturers in the US.

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Imagine how many more jobs we would have in the US if we restricted importation of everything else, like they have done with firearms and ammunition...

Winchester and Browning have been foreign owned for decades. Same Belgian folks that have had the biggest contracts for military small arms.