Do you think it's okay to give/loan police deparments ammo?
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RetiredUSNChief
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An interesting demographic here is that Proctor, Minnesota is a small town with a population of just a smidgen over 3,000 people.
That means that you have small town familiarity and behavior here. This isn't Chicago, Indianapolis, New York, or even small cities in the neighborhood of 100,000 or so.
Think rural...as in Mayberry, even. A large percentage of people probably own guns of one sort or another.
There is an intimacy inherent within the community of small towns that's much more tight-knit than many of us are used to. Everybody's a neighbor to somebody and people know each other even if they're not neighbors.
The police chief ASKED his community for help. And, like almost all such small communities, people stepped up to the plate.
And he's clearly said that when their stores of ammunition are replenished through the normal channels, he'll be repaying those who helped.
Would I have offered assistance in the same circumstances?
Very likely, yes.
That means that you have small town familiarity and behavior here. This isn't Chicago, Indianapolis, New York, or even small cities in the neighborhood of 100,000 or so.
Think rural...as in Mayberry, even. A large percentage of people probably own guns of one sort or another.
There is an intimacy inherent within the community of small towns that's much more tight-knit than many of us are used to. Everybody's a neighbor to somebody and people know each other even if they're not neighbors.
The police chief ASKED his community for help. And, like almost all such small communities, people stepped up to the plate.
And he's clearly said that when their stores of ammunition are replenished through the normal channels, he'll be repaying those who helped.
Would I have offered assistance in the same circumstances?
Very likely, yes.
I don't know if I should call that hyperbole, or just plain wrong....
Or maybe you are completely right. This country is around...because some brave individuals chose to disrespect the law enforcement of their day and even had a young Virginia Lawyer pen a document to express their reasons for disrespect.
Actions earn respect...not a badge, not a piece of paper, not a government mandate.
Many many officers earn respect by their actions every day.
Then you have the Daniel Harlesses of the world...and the New Orleans police departments of the world who deserve nothing but contempt.
SabbathWolf
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Yep. I've met some good cops.
But I've also met cops that deserved to be behind bars even more so than the people they arrest.
But I've also met cops that deserved to be behind bars even more so than the people they arrest.
P5 Guy
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Personally I would not loan ammo to them.
r1derbike
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A bit off topic, but Arkansas just signed into law guaranteeing there would be no illegal search and seizure of weapons if a state of emergency was declared. That's all I'm going to say about that, as everyone knows the story about New Orleans...
...now, if the Federales try illegal search and seizure; Houston, we have a big problem.
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MedWheeler
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TennJed, from someone who has done the job that so many would not, well said.
I live in a small hick town with an even smaller police dept. I've met a good number if them and they all seem like genuinely good guys and are always friendly whenever I go into the station, no road Gestapo's, no guys in full tactical gear....most if the time they are wearing their dept issues polos and a smile.
If they ever came to me and said " hey M, we ran into an issue and the dept is low on ammo, we were wondering I you would be interested In selling/ donating some if your stock"......I would be more than happ to give them whatever I coul spare.....
If they ever came to me and said " hey M, we ran into an issue and the dept is low on ammo, we were wondering I you would be interested In selling/ donating some if your stock"......I would be more than happ to give them whatever I coul spare.....
Creature
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I will bet that Ol' Joe and Barack are very likely personable and will seem like good guys too when met in person. Just sayin'...
DeadFlies
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I'd sell ammo to the cops. Money talks.
Would I give/loan it to them? No way. BS walks. And most cops, in my own experiences, are mostly BS.
Would I give/loan it to them? No way. BS walks. And most cops, in my own experiences, are mostly BS.
Nit quite sure the point you are trying to make.... yeah, sure you could say the same thing about Hitler, mother Theresa, Stalin or Ghandi....
Unfortunately I don't have a crystal ball to let me know how trustworthy my local PD is, all I have to go on is the few encounters I've had with them and my gut feeling......
We're talking about giving/ selling them ammo, not inviting them over for Christmas dinner or babysitting my kids......Ide probably do the same for anyone at the range If they genuinely seemed like a decent guy.
Steve CT
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I have rarely had any active "assistance" from any PD. Undoubtedly there are benefits that accrue to living in a "policed society", the alternative would be unthinkable.
When does it become MY responsibility as a citizen of that society to give what I paid for to the employees of that "policed society"? I pay my taxes, I live my life responsibly, and I provide for my needs. If the municipality, city, state, etc. does not provide to their employees what they need to do their job, they need to hold their employer accountable, OR provide for themselves as they believe is appropriate.
Sorry to disagree, and I don't want to confront LEO's who do an important job, but I did my part, I paid the taxes. If their employer didn't plan properly to supply them with the tools they need ...
I wouldn't give them any ammo. If they need to be protected they can call me and I'll shoot the bad guys up for them.
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Creature
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My point is that the police are not your friends. Giving them ammo because you perceive them to be 'good guys' is about as sensible as handing over your wallet to a well dressed stranger who politely asks for your wallet.
winterhorse290
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for the right price, i could "find" them some. other than that. ammo? ammo?, i got no stinking ammo 
Sav .250
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I`m sure Police Dept`s piggy back of other larger gov`t contracts. Best price possible.
No.........for me.
No.........for me.
oneounceload
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IF the local PD does not act like power-hungry Nazi Brownshirts whenever you interact with them, I would consider SELLING them some IF I had enough. However, and as many have pointed out, today's LEO seem to be a far cry from the Andy Griffith type of many years ago and now act like you - as a gun owner - are their enemy
we are not amused
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This is a rather silly question. Do as you please!
If you are friendly with the local cops and get along well with them, and want to support them, by all means!
If you don't, then don't!
The idea that they will then know you have guns is kind silly in my mind. They probably already know if you practice with them. And if you don't practice with them, they aren't likely to do you much good.
If you are friendly with the local cops and get along well with them, and want to support them, by all means!
If you don't, then don't!
The idea that they will then know you have guns is kind silly in my mind. They probably already know if you practice with them. And if you don't practice with them, they aren't likely to do you much good.
I would gladly donate school supplies to a local school, particularly one whose budget has been gutted by far-away legislators in an ivory tower, even though I wouldn't expect them to give me pen and paper whenever I ran low. I don't see how this is different. If my local police department asked for donations, I'd be proud to help out.
And while I don't think of the police as my sole defense as criminals (I'm sure nobody here does), that doesn't mean they're not important. I don't know of any private citizens out conducting DUII checks at 2am, yet we all benefit from fewer drunk drivers on the roads. I don't know of any private citizens raiding and dismantling meth labs, yet we all benefit from having meth labs shut down. Etc.
And while I don't think of the police as my sole defense as criminals (I'm sure nobody here does), that doesn't mean they're not important. I don't know of any private citizens out conducting DUII checks at 2am, yet we all benefit from fewer drunk drivers on the roads. I don't know of any private citizens raiding and dismantling meth labs, yet we all benefit from having meth labs shut down. Etc.
Resist Evil
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If government agents need to buy more ammunition, the governments they represent could reduce overhead by firing some administrators and cutting back welfare, eliminate subsidizing illegal aliens education and medical care, reduce their own pay and benefits, contribute a portion of their kickbacks, ad infinitum to get the money into the budget for it.
Let's step off of the "Oh, it's the reduced budget" whine and moan train to focus on the fact that most governments have more than enough money to provide for their material needs.
Let's step off of the "Oh, it's the reduced budget" whine and moan train to focus on the fact that most governments have more than enough money to provide for their material needs.
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