I think the 130 would be ideal in .308. The 150s in my .300wm and the 100s in my .25-06 should be pushing around 3,300 fps. It looks like you should be able to get to 3,200 fps with the 130 in .308. That should work very well.
You will likely be very happy with TTSX. We’ve been using them for a few years now in .25-06, .30-06, and .300 win mag. They’ve been dropping the deer like they were struck by lightning. Just drop down in weight and run them fast.
Yep, we've had a terrible winter for scouting (and skiing) because we haven't had any snow that's lasted more than a few days. On top of that, this is my busiest season at work, so I really need the snow to stick until I can get out to scout.
So what is an excellent, low-weight scope for big game hunting? I really like my Leupold VX-6 2-12, but I wouldn't say it is light. When I wanted a light scope for a Savage Axis II in .25-06 I went with Leupold VX-3i 3.5-10 because it is only 12.6 oz. The Zeiss and Swaros I looked at all were...
I don’t think you can beat a Savage Axis II in .25-06 for a quarterbore truck gun. Bought mine as a low cost, low recoil first deer rifle for my kids and it has become my favorite deer rifle.
Yes, I did "touch this" at the end of my long post at 10:48. Either reading comprehension ain't your thing or... I don't know what your problem is. Try reading that post again. Since you won't read that post again, and I'm not sure you've read much of anything because you keep misstating the...
Yes, and the Army text I linked to draws on about 50 years of experiments and observations of battle field injuries.
They discuss the way a tumbling FMJ causes a much larger wound cavity because it suddenly has a much larger frontal area. This is exactly what happens when a bullet expands.
I...
This is a literal quote in that I included in the post you are responding to:
"I'll say it again, energy is only useful as a marketing tool for selling velocity." CraigC wildly overstated his case and tried to walk it back later but still keeps making obnoxious statements toward other posters.
I got bored pulling examples, so here are quotes from the first half of this thread from CraigC:
"Dimes and energy don't amount to a hill of beans."
"You're taking my comments out of context, which is usually that of handguns, where energy doesn't tell us a damned thing." (wombat13 – yes this...
I was torn between .30-06 and .300WM. I hunt with .300WM in large part because it was my first hunting rifle and my wife gave it to me. If I had it to do over again, I'd have let my FIL (who coached her) know that I wanted a .30-06. I do love shooting my M1 Garand.
In the end I chose .30-06...
Okay sure, but the issue that started this all was a couple of posters stating that energy is irrelevant and just a marketing gimmick. Insufficient energy is a real problem, otherwise we wouldn't see minimum energy requirements from guides and regulations.
Not sure about the 22" barrel on the .300WM. If I'm going to deal with .300WM recoil it's because I want the velocity. I'd think there are better options than .300WM if I really don't want to deal with a 24" barrel. Also, I'd think they need to bring more chamberings to market if caliber...
One, final (I think), note: The overall takeaway from the Army textbook is that the choices we see hunters and guides making actually make sense. The wisdom of crowds works again! Large, heavy bullets for big animals because penetration is critical. Light explosive bullets for varmints and small...
Thanks for the perspective based on experience. Your final question leaves me somewhat confused. Are you saying energy doesn't matter? If so why do many professional guides require rounds with a minimum of 5,000 ft-lbs of ME (per your previous post)? I guess I would answer that yes, energy...
This is going to be a very long post, so buckle up. TLDR version: Sorry CraigC, energy matters.
I found an excellent resource that might help us settle our discussion regarding the value of energy: “Conventional Warfare: Ballistic, Blast and Burn Injuries” published by the Borden Institute...
You are correct, our little peeing match has gotten way off topic. To answer the OP's question, I guess it depends on a few factors because neither is clearly better than the other (see the ongoing debate above):
1. Do you really want one or the other? If so, go with that.
2. Do you reload? If...
And here's the problem with TKO. A major league baseball (2.9" diameter, 5 oz) thrown at 50 mph (even I can do that) has a TKO 66.45. That ain't going to kill even a whitetail deer, let alone a cape buffalo. Energy overstates the value of velocity and understates the value of mass and diamter...
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