EDIT: Links to posts in this thread for particular guns/barrels:
Barsto aftermarket 1911 barrel: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10982584
Glock 20 factory barrel: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10983226
Glock 20 KKM Match aftermarket barrel: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10983226
Rock Island Armory Tac II: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10982640
Ruger SR1911 10: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10983636 and https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10984056
Sig P220: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10983555
Smith & Wesson 610 Revolver: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10983869
Tanfoglio / Witness Elite Match: You're at it, scroll down in this post.
Case support is a pretty significant topic among people shooting 10mm autos. Running at even higher pressures than .40 (a cartridge known for bulging dramatically/frighteningly in guns with little case support), 10mms can pick up some pretty scary bulges and even failures. In another thread ( https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/ria-10mm-a-brief-review.844300/ ) reviewing an RIA 10mm, a poster asked for photos of a fired case next to an unfired round and a picture of a cartridge in the chamber.
I don't have that for an RIA 10mm, but I do have that for a EAA Witness/Tanfoglio Elite Match 10mm. I thought those pics might be off-topic for the other thread; but if I started a new thread, maybe those with other 10mm autos can take and post equivalent/similar pictures. If other contribute, this might be a useful resource for people contemplating the purchase of a 10mm who want to consider case support.
The photos below show 10mm rounds that are/were loaded with 13.2 grains of AA#9 behind a 180 grain Speer Gold Dot JHP. Western/Accurate Powders list 13.5 as the max for AA#9 behind 180 grain JHP's, so these are pretty hot - just a couple tenths off of book max. These definitely draw the attention of people at a range where everyone else is shooting service-caliber stuff... I think they rate as "real" 10mm. Starline brass (not new in this case) and CCI non-magnum LPP's.
Here is a fired case next to a loaded one. Any bulging is not apparent. This is probably why I routinely get many, many loadings out of this Starline brass... it's not being stretched that much in my gun.
Getting a photograph of the portion of the case base exposed by the feed ramp is not easy. The case is basically buried in the barrel:
Here's my best attempt at photographing the tiny sliver of case that sits above the feed ramp:
I'd love it if folks with other 10mm's would do the same. I think most 10mm's being made these days have adequate-to-excellent case support, and I'd love to give people thinking about getting one some solid, current information about what they can expect.
Barsto aftermarket 1911 barrel: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10982584
Glock 20 factory barrel: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10983226
Glock 20 KKM Match aftermarket barrel: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10983226
Rock Island Armory Tac II: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10982640
Ruger SR1911 10: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10983636 and https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10984056
Sig P220: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10983555
Smith & Wesson 610 Revolver: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/10mm-case-support-photos.844352/#post-10983869
Tanfoglio / Witness Elite Match: You're at it, scroll down in this post.
Case support is a pretty significant topic among people shooting 10mm autos. Running at even higher pressures than .40 (a cartridge known for bulging dramatically/frighteningly in guns with little case support), 10mms can pick up some pretty scary bulges and even failures. In another thread ( https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/ria-10mm-a-brief-review.844300/ ) reviewing an RIA 10mm, a poster asked for photos of a fired case next to an unfired round and a picture of a cartridge in the chamber.
I don't have that for an RIA 10mm, but I do have that for a EAA Witness/Tanfoglio Elite Match 10mm. I thought those pics might be off-topic for the other thread; but if I started a new thread, maybe those with other 10mm autos can take and post equivalent/similar pictures. If other contribute, this might be a useful resource for people contemplating the purchase of a 10mm who want to consider case support.
The photos below show 10mm rounds that are/were loaded with 13.2 grains of AA#9 behind a 180 grain Speer Gold Dot JHP. Western/Accurate Powders list 13.5 as the max for AA#9 behind 180 grain JHP's, so these are pretty hot - just a couple tenths off of book max. These definitely draw the attention of people at a range where everyone else is shooting service-caliber stuff... I think they rate as "real" 10mm. Starline brass (not new in this case) and CCI non-magnum LPP's.
Here is a fired case next to a loaded one. Any bulging is not apparent. This is probably why I routinely get many, many loadings out of this Starline brass... it's not being stretched that much in my gun.
Getting a photograph of the portion of the case base exposed by the feed ramp is not easy. The case is basically buried in the barrel:
Here's my best attempt at photographing the tiny sliver of case that sits above the feed ramp:
I'd love it if folks with other 10mm's would do the same. I think most 10mm's being made these days have adequate-to-excellent case support, and I'd love to give people thinking about getting one some solid, current information about what they can expect.
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