1851 navy 36 caliber for deer and hogs will it be enough?

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so guys as most of you know I just got in yesterday a new traditions/pietta 1851 navy colt 36 caliber revolver and so would this have enough power to take deer or wild hogs if needed?? also i'm sure it would be fine for small game like rabbits and squirrels! thanks! :)
 
I would direct you to this thread. Maint has been dragged over the coals about this and has decided to go with his 30-30 and a .357 backup pistol for black bear. Just stay within your bounds and expertise.

BP revolvers are not the end all when it comes to killing animals cleanly with one shot, especially with a round ball. When I lived in Alaska years ago I hunted moose with a friend in a pair. He had a .54 caliber muzzleloader rifle (patched round ball) and I had a .50 caliber rifle (patched round ball). He would shoot first to try to bring it down and my shot would be the kill if needed. Basically 2 shots to bring it down. We always split the meat. A 1,000 pound moose is nothing to trifle with, but if not with a calf it was nothing like facing a black bear, especially with a cub or two. Black bears can be a bad thing. Brown/grizzly bears will leave you alone if they perceive no threat and have a food source. Black bears will hunt you down if they go rogue. I lived in Alaska for 35 years and have seen it many times.

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...er-revolver-load-for-black-bear.839416/page-3

Jim
 
Re hunting deer and hogs with a Navy: No, absolutely not. If one is coming at you and a .36 is all you have then use it, by all means, but don't go lookin for it. That would be crazy; really nuts.
 
Good for Rebs & Feds, hostile indigenes, sassy bandits, snakes, surly bartenders (for dawdlin’ service) and all manner of small to medium sized quadrupeds. Chimps too, I suppose. You could make your own list of fun facts midland man. If you have any imagination at all - it would be a long one.

I love a Navy and have only complimentary things to say about them, they are an iconic pistol.

I was thinking of taking one of mine to S. Africa next year for cape buffalo. Do you think that would be a good idea, midland? … Midland?
 
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okay guys lol I love these comments but I do know for a fact they are proven mankillers back in the day so i'm sure they would still do the work if asked of it right??
 
Eyrie G. Dogg said:
Good for Rebs & Feds, hostile indigenes, sassy bandits, snakes, surly bartenders (for dawdlin’ service) and all manner of small to medium sized quadrupeds. Chimps too, I suppose. You could make your own list of fun facts midland man. If you have any imagination at all - it would be a long one.

I love a Navy and have only complimentary things to say about them, they are an iconic pistol.

I was thinking of taking one of mine to S. Africa next year for cape buffalo. Do you think that would be a good idea, midland? … Midland?
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with a 460ne behind it maybe lol!! :)
 
expat_alaska said:
James Butler Hickok killed Davis Tutt with one shot with a round ball through the heart at 75 paces with a Colt Navy .36 back in the day. POA, POI.

Davis Tutt was a bit more thin skinned than a bear or deer.

Question answered.

Jim
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well deer here in Oklahoma are thin skinned as they only weigh around 75-150lbs so I figured for our deer it would work but as I know deer up north are much bigger there! but yeah varmits and such like squirrels,rabbits etc would be fine!
 
Many semesters ago, when I was 17, some friends and I were horseback in the Chocolate Mountains on the CA-NV boarder Mojave Desert area. We were spread out looking for petroglyphs. As I was coming around the base of an incline a male javelina (skunk pig, musk hog or peccary) rushed me from uphill. It was springtime mating season and he was thinking to protect his harem. Those guys can really move.

I got him on top of his head with a beater brass faux Navy using a .375 with about 20 grains of black at roughly 25 yards. It killed him instantly. This fellow looked to be about 65 pounds, maybe 70 (not exactly a Russian boar). I did not find an exit wound. He startled hell out of me and my horse but it was a fine day. A .36 makes a worthy handgun.
 
Eyrie G. Dogg said:
Many semesters ago, when I was 17, some friends and I were horseback in the Chocolate Mountains on the CA-NV boarder Mojave Desert area. We were spread out looking for petroglyphs. As I was coming around the base of an incline a male javelina (skunk pig, musk hog or peccary) rushed me from uphill. It was springtime mating season and he was thinking to protect his harem. Those guys can really move.

I got him on top of his head with a beater brass faux Navy using a .375 with about 20 grains of black at roughly 25 yards. It killed him instantly. This fellow looked to be about 65 pounds, maybe 70 (not exactly a Russian boar). I did not find an exit wound. He startled hell out of me and my horse but it was a fine day. A .36 makes a worthy handgun.
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cool story thanks for sharing yeah just imagine what all these pistols had killed etc, since they came out in 1851...
 
I haven't hunted yet with a .36 revolver, I think it would do just fine on small stuff. Yes it brought down a man at 70ish yards. I kinda wonder if it broke ribs or just slipped between them. Either way the guy was snuffed.
 
Yep, ol' Tutt was shot dead as pork.


Another good function for a Navy is as a ratter, specifically Mexican Rats. I’ll explain - As a youngster I did some summer course work at the University of San Diego. On off-hours some pals and I would occasionally go down across the boarder to the Tijuana Dump. For a discrete twenty to the jefe of the place we were made honorary Officers of the TJ Waste Disposal & Sanitary District for the afternoon. I had a steel ‘51 by then and that‘s the perfect gun for Mexican Rats, the biggest suckers you ever saw. Running, walking and stationary targets in a target rich environment like you wouldn’t believe, for some of the best shooting time I ever had. A nasty place to be fer shur but an absolute heap a fun. We would run out of ammo long before they ran out of rats. I think that’s where I became maybe near to halfway decent with a Navy.

You could never think of doing that now - things have changed and those days are over and done. Hella good time though and solid practice and Colt’s New Ranger Size Revolving Belt Pistol was the ideal gun for it.
 
You mean you would let some goofball run you off from here? Just because a few are making jokes? And you have only been here a little over a year and a half. Trust me posters have been clowning around on here for many years and sometimes they are even funny.

The .36 Navy may be close in power to a weak 38 Special. Maybe more like the old 38 Colt used in the Philippines so long ago that received so many complaints about stopping power. So whatever that weak old round is good for then then .36 navy should work on just as well.
 
Maint, just ignore the clowns, please. It is a good informative forum. Just grow a thicker skin. I agree whole heartedly with Ratshooter. There are cheapshot idiots wherever you go in life.

Don't go away. We need level headed folks like you here. Lurk if you must and maybe not post while you think about it.

Everyone has opinions and some are not great. We can sort the jerks out from the more intelligent folks like you and just not respond to them. They will soon go away due to lack of attention, and that is what they are looking for.

Regards,

Jim
 
Gotta say I don't much care for that fellows comments myself. This forum is about sharing information and insight, don't let some knothead turn you away from it. BTW I took 3 Jackrabbits down today with a 38 special, 2 were over 70 yards. I really gotta get me a 36 cal revolver and try it.
 
Jackrabbit1957 said:
Gotta say I don't much care for that fellows comments myself. This forum is about sharing information and insight, don't let some knothead turn you away from it. BTW I took 3 Jackrabbits down today with a 38 special, 2 were over 70 yards. I really gotta get me a 36 cal revolver and try it.
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jackrabbit this 36 caliber revolvers are fun! plus i agree with your comments to maint1517 i see it all the time just put on the brass and keep going! and jackrabbit i want to get a 32 or 36 caliber flintlock rifle to hunt squirrels with :)
 
Old time cowboys who packed cap and ball revolvers also carried long knives, just in case.
Not for rabbits, but maybe critters that fight back.
Just sayin'

Check out Grand Duke Alexis' famous Royal Buffalo Hunt to see what critters he brought down using black powder revolvers
 
Military weapons are designed to wound, not kill. A wounded soldier requires at least 2 others to care for him when they could be fighting. An 1851 is kinda like cholera. It will probably kill you but it may take a week.
To answer the question, No it is not enough gun for any medium sized game animal.
 
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