1858 Remington

My original Cylinder measures length = 2.0165”, diameter = 1.590 and arbor = .277.
I have a replacement Cylinder that measures length = 2.0172”, diameter = 1.593" and arbor = .277".
My Howell Cylinder measures, length = 2.0156", diameter = 1.625", arbor hole = 0.2773", bolt notch = 0.160".
The Bolt Notches seam to maintain the 0.156" dimension, probably cut with a wood ruff cutter and that would explain it.
I wouldn't worry to much, as long as they're within a few thousands of an inch.

AntiqueSledMan.
 
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Pietta NMA made past few years


C/B cylinder
Length 51.28mm
Dia 40.45
Arbor/cylinder pin hole 7.07mm
Bolt notch width 4.3 measuring outside
~3.9-4.02mm using internal width
Arbor pin /cylinder pin 6.97mm

Taylor’s/R&D cylinder
Length 51.3mm
Dia 41.28-41.5mm
Arbor/cylinder pin hole 7.1mm
Bolt notch width 4.3 measuring outside
~4.09-4.12mm using internal width caliper
 
I heard back from Howell and according to them the cylinder conversion will not work in the SB. I am sure a gunsmith can make it work with minor adjustments. just my opinion.
 
Thanks guys, I still believe I can make it work. Will order and sent to my sister in law in Kansas for her to organize a lift to SA. Will let you know when i get it and test results
 
Parys said:
Thanks guys, I still believe I can make it work. Will order and sent to my sister in law in Kansas for her to organize a lift to SA. Will let you know when i get it and test results
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If it’s close, yeah I’ll bet you can.
 
While the cylinder length and bolt notches can be worked, the ratchet configuration where the hand advances the cylinder will be the real challenge if it differs much from that of the Santa Barbara cylinder. Good Luck!
 
Ephraim Kibbey said:
While the cylinder length and bolt notches can be worked, the ratchet configuration where the hand advances the cylinder will be the real challenge if it differs much from that of the Santa Barbara cylinder. Good Luck!
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I have a list of interchangable parts on the 1858 Remington Santa Barbara and on this list I saw that the Pietta cylinder fits. A gunshop in the area had a SB and a Pietta. They fitted the Pietta cylinder in the SB an fitted perfectly. they dry shot it with the Pietta cylinder and all worked fine. If it works with a C&B cylinder it must work with a conversion cylinder, right? So I truly hope it works out
 
I had a Santa B years ago and it was definitely made of excellent material but it had barrel / cylinder misalignment bad enough that I couldn't adjust it out so . . . off she went !! Lol

Mike
 
Blackpowderwarrior said:
i hope you update this thread as i recently purchased a SB myself
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Nice, is it a plane jane or engraved? I have a list of interchangeable parts. Will post it, for what it is worth, got it on the "Project 1858" site.
I am still waiting for a Conversion cylinder. Google this site "https://www-santa--barbara--1858-or...tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc" and on the left hand side, the index "Help, what now?" click on that and scroll down. you will find a interchangeable parts list. Hope that helps
 

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Sorry, exploded images of Remie was not suppose to upload. Does anyone know how to get a hold of Michael "Macgloy" Gloystein from projeckt 1858. I cant seem to get into contact with him. all his emails that I send return
 
Hi Guys, Just bought a 1858 Pietta Remington, never been shot from a collection as well as another plane jane Santa Barbara, very nice shape. SB is a 1973 but were do I get the year of the Pietta.

Parys
 
Parys said:
Hi Guys, Just bought a 1858 Pietta Remington, never been shot from a collection as well as another plane jane Santa Barbara, very nice shape. SB is a 1973 but were do I get the year of the Pietta.

Parys
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From the two letter or number code on the right side of the frame.

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Parys said:
Hi hawg,
I have 2 symbols. the one is in a block, That is BZ, the other is under a star and that is PN. BZ is on the list as 2005
thanks
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The PN is the Gardone black powder proof. The star over the coat of arms is the Gardone inspection stamp.
 
According to this

"The "PN" under a five point star in a wheel is the actual proof mark. This "certifies" that each chamber was proofed at 8,800 psi with a 30% plus load. The "PN" are the initials for "polere nera" or black powder."
 
1KPerDay said:
According to this

"The "PN" under a five point star in a wheel is the actual proof mark. This "certifies" that each chamber was proofed at 8,800 psi with a 30% plus load. The "PN" are the initials for "polere nera" or black powder."
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The star is the proof mark. PN is black powder. PSF Pulvero Senza Fumo is smokeless powder.
 
Let's see a pic of your beauty. And, how do you find the mainspring tension? A bit stout huh?
 
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