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1911 in 9mm

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by George Dickel, Mar 25, 2020.

  1. IlikeSA

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    I carry a 9mm SA Range Officer with rail for work and am quite happy with it. I put some Archangel aluminum grips on it with an integral magwell as well. I run the Brownells 9mm 1911 mags and have found them to be highly reliable. Nine millimeter from a full sized steel 1911 is a joy to shoot.
     
  2. Trashyshoots

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    To be fair, if you're an avid shooter, you will put 10x the value of the gun though it in ammo and cleaning supplies.
     
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  3. Tallball

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    I paid my friend at the LGS probably a little too much for this used 9mm 1911 made by RIA. I gave him $300, IIRC. It's a good shooter and has given me zero problems.

    I said I may have given him a little too much because I got a NiB 45acp version a few months later for $340-something. They are made by the company and are the same size (full-sized).

    I like them both. The 9mm is gentle to shoot. I put a box of ammo through it yesterday and was pleased (as always) by its accuracy.

     
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  4. cfullgraf

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    There are a number of pistols built based on the 1911 design. I have a couple 380 ACP pistols based on the 1911 design which function well but they are not 1911 pistols, in my opinion.

    There are a number of 9x19 pistols built on the 1911 sized frame, both full sized and "Commander" versions. These work well and are a joy to shoot due to the larger frame size and reduced recoil versus the 45 ACP.

    I'm a big fan of the full sized 1911 pistols and have a number chambered of 9x19. I'd not feel under-gunned with a 9x19 full sized 1911 pistol.
     
  5. toivo

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    I have a Springfield Range Officer in 9mm -- the target model because I never really liked a rail on a 1911. It's a real pleasure to shoot: cheap ammo, low recoil, fun, fun, fun.
     
  6. highlander 5

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    I have the Ruger 9 mm lightweight for EDC love the pistolmy only complaint recoil spring was too light got FTF,replaced it with Wilson 12 lb spring no more FTF.
     
  7. Jim Watson

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    Yes, but I am a reloader, my gear is amortized, and it would take a long time for the cheaper bullets to pay for a new Wilson.
     
  8. 12Bravo20

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    I have an old Llama 380 that is identical in parts and function as a 1911 except everything in miniature. No I would not call them a 1911. I have no problem calling them a mini 1911. They cute little pistols and fun to shoot. Not all of the mini 380s use a barrel link like a 1911 but the older ones do.
     
  9. Trashyshoots

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    Shoot more ;)
     
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  10. JR24

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    Not a comment on you; but I see a lot of folks opine they can't afford a Wilson or what not yet have a new gun thread every couple months, saving for a year would get them one, especially if they grab the marked down ones on places like Grabagun.
     
  11. drband

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    I have a double stack 9mm RIA "1911" that I think is great. 4.25" barrel, g10 grips, 17 rd capacity. It just runs and runs. The slide is standard 1911 and the frame is based on the Para DS guns. It's a solid option that is extremely soft shooting. No, technically it's not a 1911, but it runs, feels like, and shoots like a 1911. I do like the wide frame--seems to really mitigate recoil. Note: it uses a standard MSH (EGW), and those are StonerCNC custom grips.
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  12. drband

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    And it serves double duty in that it is a TCM model with an extra .22TCM barrel. 17 fireballs @ 1900 fps per magazine!
     
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  13. bannockburn

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    Never had a 1911 in 9mm. The closest I get is having a .38 Super (typically in a Colt Commander), that I have added a complete 9mm. barrel assembly to, along with 9mm. magazines. With this set-up I'm good to go with both cartridges.
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  14. drband

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    I think .38Super is a great cartridge. I just can't justify it for me. (Yet!):)
     
  15. earplug

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    Buy one, they are fun. I have a STI and a friend has a Rock Island. 9MM 1911 based pistols are great for gun games due to the larger magazine capacity and less ammo costs.
     
  16. Tallball

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    As far as accuracy goes, I'm not sure that it's worthwhile for some of us to pay much over four or five or six hundred dollars for a 1911.

    I am in my fifties. My eyes are not what they were.

    I shoot my Walther PPQ, CZ75 clones (Tanfolgio), and 1911's about as well as I can shoot a service pistol. I have shot fancier models belonging to friends and relatives, but I am not a good enough shooter for the excellent slide to frame fit, the very nice sights, the lighter crisper trigger, etc. to actually improve my practical accuracy.

    Standing, offhand, at about a round every second or two, I can put 50 rounds into a group about the size of my palm from seven yards, with two or three fliers.

    At fifteen yards I can put them into a group the size of a small "desert" paper plate, again with a few fliers.

    I can do better with a nice 22, such as my Buck Mark, and a little better with a nice revolver, such as my Model 28.

    But that's my limit for a semiautomatic service pistol with pretty good sights and a pretty good trigger. Improving the sights, trigger, and fitting to "match grade" is irrelevant to me. The pistol is way outshooting me at that point; I am not a good enough pistolero for the improvements to make a difference.

    Hence my satisfaction with pistols such as my RIA 1911's. They fit my hands well, and their triggers and sights are about as good as I can take advantage of.

    I shoot my Star Super B about as well as the others I mentioned. A few years back there was a big batch of surplus ones being sold for a little over $200 apiece. My FiL immediately ordered one after he shot mine. Not only did he get his for around $10 cheaper, it was unissued, basically NoS. They look and feel like a 1911, but have a locking system like the Browning Hi-Power. The Star BM's are slightly smaller, but use the 1911 locking system. Some of those were selling for under $200 a couple of years back. They are both in 9mm and are good pistols.


     
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  17. Bottom Gun

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    It's hard to beat a Kimber for accuracy and value.
     
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  18. TonyAngel

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    What model is that? Their website is exactly geared to finding something specific. I'd be interested in a widebody 1911 in 9mm without the STI price tag.
     
  19. drband

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    This is basically what I have, but it has a different adjustable rear sight. Mine has a LPA adjustable rear sight. This pic is from the RIA site. Maybe the combo is not in the catalog now?
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    I looked a little more on Bud's site and found my exact model. The combo .22TCM/9mm is the exact gun I have and is a good value for a two caliber pistol. Model 51949
    https://www.budsgunshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/35230/rock+island+armory+51949+tcm+rock+standard+mshc+combo+semi-automatic+22+tcm/9mm+bl
     
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  20. ApacheCoTodd

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    Astoundingly accurate, feeds almost anything (I say almost even though I haven't had any issues yet), NOT magazine-sensitive, light and carries 10 rounds.

    I literally could not be happier outside of still not finding the right cross-draw for it.

    A smart-shopping fella can get a *version* from Kimber for under 800 bucks.... after we're past this current nonsense.

    Made larger as a *full-size* 1911 and smaller than this *Commander* sized version as well. A single-stack 9mm with a full 1911 grip, 1911 trigger in a light and reliable package.... They sell themselves with no apologies or explanations needed.

    Todd.
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  21. kcofohio
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    I bought the same Aegis for my wife, thinking since she liked my Pro Carry in 45, she would like one in 9mm. Wrong! Now she has my 45 and I have the Aegis. We're both happy. :)

    I have been using the M7/M9 (19021) shoulder holster by Adirondack Leather.
     
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    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the DW Pointman 9.
     
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  23. Walkalong

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    In my youth I thought the 9MM didn't have enough recoil, in my youth.

    Now I love shooting 9MM in a 1911 (Always been a 1911 fan) I even download the 9MM for "plinker" rounds. 124s @ 1050ish.
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  24. TonyAngel

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    Honestly, I'm 55 years old and bought my first handgun when I turned 21. I acquired my first 1911 very early on. All of my shooting buddies have at least one 1911. It is, after all, the perfect platform for the perfect trigger and the design just fits in the hand. I've shot lots of examples and quite frankly, with any 1911 built over the last 10 or 15 years, I don't think I've run across a single one that shot badly. None that I would call a piece of junk. I think that they've all been accurate, although some are probably more accurate than others, not that I could tell without putting one in a ransom rest.

    My point is, if you want one, get one, but you definitely don't need to spend thousands of dollars to get a good one. In terms of investment, I think that the point of diminishing returns is reached very early on with a 1911 and the curve is pretty steep. I have my hoopty STI that I paid around $600 for. A couple of buddies have 1911s that cost over $2000. Theirs certainly don't shoot $1500 worth better than mine. In fact, they don't shoot any better than mine at all, from what I can tell.

    Personally, if I was in the market for a 1911 right now, I'd be looking seriously at a Rock Island or Taurus.
     
  25. TonyAngel

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    Is this going to be a range gun or a carry gun? There are considerations. With the $800 plus guns, odds are that they are patterned after a series 80 colt. Meaning that they have some sort of internal plumbing to serve as a firing pin block. A safety feature.

    The inexpensive models I’ve seen, like the ones from Armscor, are patterned after the model 70, meaning no firing pin safety plumbing. If you drop a series 70 on its muzzle onto a hard surface, it COULD go off, if a round is chambered.

    Of course, since the 70 series have fewer moving parts, this usually means that a 70 series, all other things being equal, will have the better trigger. It was not uncommon for those that shot competitively to have the pin safety removed from their series 80s for the sake of the trigger.

    My STI is a rebranded Armscor based on the series 70. Love it.
     
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