skinewmexico
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As long as they die, I don't care where they do it. They just varmints.
30-06 and Taking Hogs
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MCgunner
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And that relates to the .30-06 how?
Jeff F
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For a 30-06 I'd just get a box of 150 gr and go hunting. I have shot a lot of 06 and I don't think I have ever shot the 125's, that sounds like some kind of a varmint bullet, I have no experience with them.
well with the 125's, what i was intending to use was the Remington managed recoil. The synthetic stock is so lightweight on my stevens 200 so it kicks pretty hard. I handle it just fine but i think a lesser recoil would help my accuracy, even if it's only psychological.
TCB in TN
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Nothing wrong with using the lighter loads, just be aware that your penetration will be lessened and you will need to be more careful about your shot selection.
MCgunner
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Will 7.62x39 work? Or 7.62x54r ?
Poppycock! 7.62x39, with a 150 grain load, is plenty. I want enough bullet, though. Most hogs you're going to find are under 300 lbs. There aren't that many of the hogzilla types. Yeah, on a really big one, shooting the shoulder might be a little iffy with the 7.62x39 unless you were loaded with a controlled expansion bullet that you knew would work, like a Barnes. I've let a really big one walk right by my stand before, though. The get gamey once they exceed much over 200 lbs. 150-200 is great eatin'. I have an SKS dedicated night hunting hog gun. It's killed one small one so far, just the other night. I needed the meat. We're infested with the things, but I don't set my trap this time of year, too hot.
Will 7.62x39 work? Or 7.62x54r ?
Poppycock! 7.62x39, with a 150 grain load, is plenty. I want enough bullet, though. Most hogs you're going to find are under 300 lbs. There aren't that many of the hogzilla types. Yeah, on a really big one, shooting the shoulder might be a little iffy with the 7.62x39 unless you were loaded with a controlled expansion bullet that you knew would work, like a Barnes. I've let a really big one walk right by my stand before, though. The get gamey once they exceed much over 200 lbs. 150-200 is great eatin'. I have an SKS dedicated night hunting hog gun. It's killed one small one so far, just the other night. I needed the meat. We're infested with the things, but I don't set my trap this time of year, too hot.
The weight isn't the most significant factor. What is most significant is the projectile configuration, i.e. say contrast a 150 grain Barnes' monolithic solid versus 150 grain Sierra hollow point. See my point? In such a case, sectional density (which is what you are really asking) is nearly a mute point. By the way, a Monolithic Solid is not needed for hogs, unless they are truly massive. The massive hog that I took in 2001 was taken with 2 shots of a Federal Premium .375 H&H, with 300 grain Nosler Partitians. The beast did not so much as flinch. IMHO, expansion is needed, but controlled expansion. If I were taking a .30-06, I would prefer a 150 for small hogs, a 165 grain for medium and a 180 to 200 for the massive hogs. In closing, remember, placement.
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TCB in TN
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Another issue with hogs is whether you are talking about feral or real wild/russian or razorback type hogs. Feral hogs are typically just 1st or 2nd gen escaped or released domestic hogs. While they grow pretty big they don't have the gristle plate over the ribs that the Russian type have. A lighter bullet will work better on the feral, than on the Russian of the same size. Further more big boar hogs will be harder to bring down than sows and the smaller hogs are much better eating!
Nathanael_Greene
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Here's a thread with a reference to a pig hunter who uses the 125-grain Managed Recoil in .30-06:
http://www.texashuntingforum.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/474488/an/0/page/0/gonew/
It works, at least for one hunter. I think I'll give it a try my next time out.
http://www.texashuntingforum.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/474488/an/0/page/0/gonew/
It works, at least for one hunter. I think I'll give it a try my next time out.
It's amazing how many different opinions there are on this subject. It's also amazing how much difference there is in the physical characteristics of hogs from different loacations. IMHO ANY big game bullet in the 30-06 will work on anything short of Hogzilla. The managed recoil should be fine. The shield on a boar(some here are up to 2" thick) is no match for a 30-06. The penetration problems come from heavy bone structure and the need to punch through that to get to the forward set vitals. The 30-06 will do it easily. If you want to ensure an exit wound go with 180's but I generally want the hog to absorb as much energy as possible.
FLORIDA KEVIN
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I dont really see how recoil is a problem ,as you are only shooting a few shots ! it isnt as if you were shooting 50-100 shots in a short time like at the range ! Use the 150-180 grain bullets that are designed for big game ! Take 1 or 2 shots to check zero then 1 or 2 more to kill your hog ! Kevin
K3
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A 60gr VMax between the eyes produces an interesting result. I mozied on down the road to pop a coyote I had spotted after the shot, came back to get my hog (which dropped like a sack of bricks), and it was gone.
I bet it had a helluva headache.
No more little lightly constructed bullets for Porky.
MCgunner
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Well, here's a typical feral hog on my place. There's very few true european stock in the US. Almost all wild hogs are feral, just vary in how many generations they've been feral. Picture quality from the camera phone sux. Sorry.
These are from 75 to 150 lbs. I like the smaller ones for the table. There are some out there over 300 lbs, but I haven't messed with 'em. Let one walk right under me, once, had to be 350 if he was an ounce. Mean lookin' SOB. But, on these little farts, a 7.62x39 is plenty. .30-06 is overkill. The .30-06 will kill he biggest hog out there, though, in short order. I'd use something in the 150 or higher grain weight in a lead bullet, but I have a 140 Barnes X load just for hog hunts where I might want a monster. Yet to shoot one, though.
These are from 75 to 150 lbs. I like the smaller ones for the table. There are some out there over 300 lbs, but I haven't messed with 'em. Let one walk right under me, once, had to be 350 if he was an ounce. Mean lookin' SOB. But, on these little farts, a 7.62x39 is plenty. .30-06 is overkill. The .30-06 will kill he biggest hog out there, though, in short order. I'd use something in the 150 or higher grain weight in a lead bullet, but I have a 140 Barnes X load just for hog hunts where I might want a monster. Yet to shoot one, though.
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