Hogs with 30-06

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Lol. No. I didn’t think that’s what you were saying at all. Only that we’ve had so many threads about hogs and their construction and ability to be harvested by various calibers.

The 375 H&H is synonymous with Africa. And a claim there are some hogs that can stop them when some Cape buffalo cannot is pretty astounding. Especially considering the difference in size. But having seen some of the hogs I have, and having seen 4” grissle shields and how dense they are, I absolutely believe it.

I’ve never seen a hog stop a .470 NE express round of any kind, or a .458 Lott no matter the shield.

I’m just happy that I’ve had the spare time, good fortune and oportunity to get to shoot hogs with .470 double rifles and .458 Lott’s and such.:evil:
 
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Be prepared for a double lung shot hog to run 100 - 200 yards. Don't much matter whether he's shot in the lungs with a .300 Win mag and someone's 180 grain premium bullet or a 55 grain .223 soft point. The hog that is my avatar weighed 384 pounds. He was shot by .50 muzzleloader using the 250 grain SST bullet; muzzle velocity about 1,750 fps. Bullet was in the skin on the off side, having penetrated both "shields". Bullet broke one rib on entrance and two on the off side. Hog was standing broadside at about 40 yards when shot. Hog leaped over a gully and ran almost exactly 200 yards after being double lunged. This further that any other hog I've shot has run. Bullet was in the skin on the off side. Bullet broke one rib on entrance and two on the off side.

Yep, I've killed hundreds of hogs in traps using a .22 LR. i've also often killed 200 pound hogs with double lung shots/heart using the .22 magnum and the 40 grain Total Metal Jacket on a US Army range where i frequently hunt. There is no magic to it. Just shoot the hog in the crook of the front leg.

Go to Georgia Outdoor News and meet others who use the .22 magnum to good effect on wild hogs.
 
Shot placement is clearly of the utmost importance, but only in a pinch would I use a .22 Mag.... but then again, I have killed numerous animals over a ton in weight with handguns, so maybe my twisted paradigm isn’t quite “normal.”

Using a firearm with the limitations of a .22 Mag, you really have to pick your shots and pass on many. Personally I want a caliber/load/bullet combo that will work with any angle presented. Call me crazy...
 
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It doesn't matter, If you inject any .30-'06 round into a pig in the right spot, it will go down.
 
Shot placement is clearly of the utmost importance, but only in a pinch would I use a .22 Mag....

During small game season on Fort Sill one is limited to a shotgun and small shot or a rimfire rifle. i hunt hogs from stands at game plots and ponds with the .22 WMR. i also pass on all shots over 75 yards.
 
We shoot pigs at night with thermal scopes. Typical ranges are 30-200 yards. Double lung shots with most any cartridge means you probably won’t recover the pig unless you are a pretty dedicated tracker. We shot a pig a few years back with a 50 BMG. Pig was shot at 120 yards. She was a 150 lb sow and bullet entered near shoulder and traversed the pig to exit at the rear of the rib cage on the off side. Bullet destroyed both lungs and pushed intestine out of the exit hole. That pig ran nearly 200 yards through thick brush and only stopped because her intestines became intertwined with thorn bushes.

Moral of that story is that pigs are easy to kill, but hard to stop in place without a brain or spine shot no matter what cartridge you are using. Put any round you want into the brain or spine and a pig is DRT like any other organism. I prefer 6.8 SPC, 308, 458 SOCOM or 6.5 Grendel for the shooting we do at night. If I’m hunting from a deer stand where longer shots are likely, I’m going with a 308 at a minimum. Pigs in a trap can be killed with anything.
 
It used to be in GA and is on many other states you are limited to “small game weapons” to hunt hogs on state public land during the small game season. So many of us used .22 magnums. Small game weapons did include archer gear and muzzleloaders but still many opt for the .22 Mag.

It is pretty important to not shoot at a huge one and keep shots under 75 yds and make sure to brain them with a rim fire round. I don’t shoot at anything bigger than 100 lbs.

The regs have since changed a bit in GA and you can apparently use a centerfire during “predator” season. It is only spelled out vaguely in the regs though so we are waiting for a guinea pig to run into a game warden to find out.
 
Me, I'm shooting a 6.5 Grendel, so a lot less diameter and energy than the OP's 30-06. I have 348 hogs down so far in 2018 and over 200 of those taken with a lightweight varmint bullet, a 90 gr. Speer TNT, several over 250 lbs and the largest being 300 and 330 lbs. I occasionally test new bullets or ammo for my Grendel and do necropsies to see how the bullets are performing inside. We are all looking for various types of performance and sometimes bullets give you what you want and sometimes they give you something different. The little TNT goes in, comes apart into a zillion pieces (but we usually give up counting after 10-15) and doing a lot of damage inside while still managing to over penetrate torso shots on hogs up to 180 lbs (probably only the base of the bullet) with some regularity. These are not hogs that I am eating and so I appreciate the little bullet coming apart and doing so much damage. If I was eating the hogs, I would chose something like a monolithic round or a well bonded expanding bullet that had a high retention rate. As I am often working around livestock, I really like the fact that the TNT rounds come apart and that which may overpenetrate will be small, irregular shaped fragments that will not carry ballistic energy for more than just short distances. The light recoil is appreciated for those times when dealing with multiple targets in a given field.



If I was getting a new caliber for pig hunting and needed bullets/ammo for it, I would not simply buy ammo off the shelf based on manufacturer's claimed performance. Sometimes it is spot on. Sometimes it turns out to be very different. Sometimes a given bullet model performs very differently between calibers despite being the same model of bullet. Now, it may still perform quite well, but not necessarily in the manner desired. Inquiring about choices like the OP has done here is great to gain insight. You really want caliber-specific insight is my point here.

As far as his request about "Animal Instinct," I had not heard of it before this thread. What struck me as interesting was that it was surprisingly expensive compared to other tried and true performers from 30-06. More over, in the 2 years or so that it has been out, there is a significant lack of information on its terminal performance that I can find. I find where lots of people chrono it and do accuracy tests, but not much information on how it performs on game in the field and nothing in my search revealed any good necropsy information relative to terminal performance. If I am the OP and am going on a big hog hunting trip, the one thing I really do not want to be doing is essentially beta testing ammo, particularly expensive ammo, but maybe money is no object for the OP like it is for me. A 30-06 on hogs is going to kill them well enough, even with ball ammo. So I can't really see any reason to go with Animal Instinct on this hunt unless you really just want to use this ammo for no other reason than you are a fan of the company and like their other products. It would be a real kick in the pants to find out that it doesn't do what you want it to do, particularly if it underperforms. My point is that you don't want to be on your special hunt with something untested and find out it doesn't work as you want. I am sure H&Hhunter can tell you all sorts of stories of people he has taken hunting that had the latest and greatest rifle/ammo/scope/caliber/clothing/whatever, or just something new to them and untested, that turned out to be a dud in the field. I have seen it happen several times with people who have traveled to hunt with me. Sometimes such failures are comical or interesting. Sometimes they ruin a hunt.
 
Me, I'm shooting a 6.5 Grendel, so a lot less diameter and energy than the OP's 30-06. I have 348 hogs down so far in 2018 and over 200 of those taken with a lightweight varmint bullet, a 90 gr. Speer TNT, several over 250 lbs and the largest being 300 and 330 lbs. I occasionally test new bullets or ammo for my Grendel and do necropsies to see how the bullets are performing inside. We are all looking for various types of performance and sometimes bullets give you what you want and sometimes they give you something different. The little TNT goes in, comes apart into a zillion pieces (but we usually give up counting after 10-15) and doing a lot of damage inside while still managing to over penetrate torso shots on hogs up to 180 lbs (probably only the base of the bullet) with some regularity. These are not hogs that I am eating and so I appreciate the little bullet coming apart and doing so much damage. If I was eating the hogs, I would chose something like a monolithic round or a well bonded expanding bullet that had a high retention rate. As I am often working around livestock, I really like the fact that the TNT rounds come apart and that which may overpenetrate will be small, irregular shaped fragments that will not carry ballistic energy for more than just short distances. The light recoil is appreciated for those times when dealing with multiple targets in a given field.



If I was getting a new caliber for pig hunting and needed bullets/ammo for it, I would not simply buy ammo off the shelf based on manufacturer's claimed performance. Sometimes it is spot on. Sometimes it turns out to be very different. Sometimes a given bullet model performs very differently between calibers despite being the same model of bullet. Now, it may still perform quite well, but not necessarily in the manner desired. Inquiring about choices like the OP has done here is great to gain insight. You really want caliber-specific insight is my point here.

As far as his request about "Animal Instinct," I had not heard of it before this thread. What struck me as interesting was that it was surprisingly expensive compared to other tried and true performers from 30-06. More over, in the 2 years or so that it has been out, there is a significant lack of information on its terminal performance that I can find. I find where lots of people chrono it and do accuracy tests, but not much information on how it performs on game in the field and nothing in my search revealed any good necropsy information relative to terminal performance. If I am the OP and am going on a big hog hunting trip, the one thing I really do not want to be doing is essentially beta testing ammo, particularly expensive ammo, but maybe money is no object for the OP like it is for me. A 30-06 on hogs is going to kill them well enough, even with ball ammo. So I can't really see any reason to go with Animal Instinct on this hunt unless you really just want to use this ammo for no other reason than you are a fan of the company and like their other products. It would be a real kick in the pants to find out that it doesn't do what you want it to do, particularly if it underperforms. My point is that you don't want to be on your special hunt with something untested and find out it doesn't work as you want. I am sure H&Hhunter can tell you all sorts of stories of people he has taken hunting that had the latest and greatest rifle/ammo/scope/caliber/clothing/whatever, or just something new to them and untested, that turned out to be a dud in the field. I have seen it happen several times with people who have traveled to hunt with me. Sometimes such failures are comical or interesting. Sometimes they ruin a hunt.


Yes I can and do have plenty of tales of latest and greatest fails in the field.
 
JimK,
See page 30, 2018 Georgia Hunting regulations, re: legal weapons for bobcat and fox ( centerfire .17cal or larger).
Pg.33, bobcat and fox season; Dec 1 2018, -Feb 28, 2019.
Pg 40, WMA legal weapons; hogs and coyotes, no restrictions except only those allowed for small game during small game seasons. Bobcat and fox are classified as both small game and fur bearers in Georgia.

When these regulations were changed 4yrs ago, I stopped by my old office (Region 3) and discussed it with the Captain and Office Sergeant, and local county Ranger. At first they weren’t aware of the change made by the Board of Natural Resources during the previous annual meeting. I hunt just 15mi north of the office off US Hwy 78 , on Clark’s Hill WMA up Little River.

They are now.
If you still have your doubts, contact your region office and ask to speak to the Region LE Office. Secretary should direct you to an LE Officer.
And, carry a copy of the regulations with you. Mine are down loaded in pdf on my phone.
Along with Col Banards and Lt.Col Weavers cell phone numbers.
 
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And how hard would it have been to say center fire rifles are legal during Small Game season after December 1st.....?

instead of all this mumbo jumbo .... State a clear regulation ....

these stupid regulations are the reason I ended up with a .25/06 ... It was one of the more powerful rifles that you could use to hunt hogs on WMA back in 1969/70 .... I guess it was a good thing ...I am still hunting with it ...
 
I shot a large hog like the one in T.R.'s post. There are game ranches out there but domestic hogs often get out and interbreed. That was the case for the hog I took. The "liberated" domestic hogs are a huge problem in their own right, so I was told.
 
OP:

Lots of good posts/replies.

If you are hunting from a blind at 100 yards or less, and expect CNS shots, any old .30-06 pill will do to put the lights out.

For my own part, I stick with 180gr in my .30-06. FOr everything. Usually low-tech cup & core. In my Rem 700, the trajectory closely matches my CZ550 .375H&H with .270gr pills. The Rem 700 is my "light" gun, the CZ550 is my "heavy" gun. I prefer the CZ550 as it is slicker, more accurate, and I like CRF. But when I am not the primary hunter, I need to cut weight as I am packing my young daughter's gear, too.

I would warn you off un-tried ammo. Too many factory ammo variants that are known good performers.
 
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