.30-30 vs. .44 mag recoil comparison

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Out of a 16" lever gun, would the .30-30 pushing a 150 gr. bullet or a .44 magnum pushing a hot 240 gr. bullet have a stiffer felt recoil. I have never fired a .44 lever gun, hence the question.
 
W/guns of equivalent wt using those loads, the .44 will generate a bit more recoil energy - abt a half lb or so. Both will be in the 10.5-11.5 ft lb range for typical 20" lever gun, a bit more in the shorter carbine. I have both calibers in both 20" and 16" bbls, and they're pretty much equivalent recoil-wise w/comparable guns.
 
Well I have both, And if my shoulder is any indicator, they feel about the same to me. You can play with loads in both calibers, I shoot the Speer 110 gr. varminter reloaded in the 30-30 (Win. model 94 20" bbl) for a light load. The 150 gr. flat nose makes for a great general purpose load.

I also have a Marlin 94 16" bbl. in 44 mag. I only reload for the 44 so I have shot pretty much powder puff loads with 200 gr. lead slugs all the way up to full power reloads with 240 gr. jacketed bullets.

The hot or factory equivalent loads seem to be similar. If you load, then you have the lucky? task of finding the load that suits your needs.
 
.44 mag rifle question

I wonder if anybody knows of a levergun that is built to handle the hot .44 mag loads made by Buffalo Bore et. al.? Winchester, Rossi, Marlin and Henry all make .44 mags but are any of them capable of firing these hot loads comfortably and safely?
Thanks for any advice.
 
The Marlins will handle any .44 Magnum load that will feed through their action (note: the Garrett Hammerheads are too long to feed).

As for recoil, I can't tell much difference between my 20" barreled Marlin 336 and my 20" barreled Marlin 1894C.
 
I honestly think the .30-30 and .44 Magnum are so close in recoil comparing like-sized firearms and factory ammo, it takes a calculator to make the difference. Honestly, I feel my Marlin 1894 kicks close to as hard as my .260 rifle, which according to the numbers is in the 13-15 ft. lb. range. (The Marlin only weighs about 6 pounds stock; the .260 probably pushes 7.5-8 pounds.)

As far as loads, I've always thought the Marlins were stout enough for anything that will feed into the chamber. This precludes the use of some of the extra-heavy bullet loads, but most of the aren't too likely to stabilize in the Marlin's 1:38" twist anyway.
 
With my Marlin/Glenfield 30A 30-30 rifle and my Ruger .44 Carbine, there's not much difference in recoil between the two, not that I can tell, anyway. I shoot factory and reloaded ammo in each; 240 gr. bullets in the .44, and 170 gr. bullets in the 30-30. With 150 gr. bullets the 30-30 has lighter felt recoil.
 
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