HANDLOADER
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Right now it appears the 90 grain 380 bullets are the cheapest on the market. Can you use them in a 9mm and have reliable operations?
380=9mm?
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.380 and 9mm are not interchangeable. I assume your talking about ammunition, not bullets.
Moving this to handguns, Autoloaders.
Moving this to handguns, Autoloaders.
DILLER
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I have only an old (second edition 1994) Lyman handbook and it lists several loads for 90grn bullets for 9mm. Assuming .355 dia.
And assuming bullets and not loaded ammo.
Diller
And assuming bullets and not loaded ammo.
Diller
.303
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the bullets would certainly be interchangeable, but as for cartridges, the 9mm, other than being 2mm longer, is also shaped differently.
misANTHrope
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mnrivrat said:
His username might be a bit of a hint as well.
Thernlund
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I understood the OP to be talking about bullets, given his username and the forum he was posting to originally. Not to mention he says...
You should move the thead back I think, Larry.
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HANDLOADER said:
You should move the thead back I think, Larry.
-T.
The Lone Haranguer
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There have been - past or present - factory loads with as low as 88-grain bullets, so the precedent is there.
Glockorama
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Yes, I believe this is a handloading thread.
I do not see why the 90gr bullets would not work in 9mm, but it would seem that the bullet profile might seem a bit odd compared to most standard 9mm specific bullets.
I do not see why the 90gr bullets would not work in 9mm, but it would seem that the bullet profile might seem a bit odd compared to most standard 9mm specific bullets.
To answer the OP's original question:
Yes, back in the early 80's (82-84) I ran several thousand 88 & 90 gr rounds through my P7 (PSP) without problem. It was very easy to get them over the sky screens at greater than 1500 FPS with compressed loads of Bluedot.
JAC
Yes, back in the early 80's (82-84) I ran several thousand 88 & 90 gr rounds through my P7 (PSP) without problem. It was very easy to get them over the sky screens at greater than 1500 FPS with compressed loads of Bluedot.
JAC
usp9
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Rangegod,
Are you aware that HK specifically recommends that you not use bullets of less than 100gr. in the P7?
Are you aware that HK specifically recommends that you not use bullets of less than 100gr. in the P7?
No, don't ever remember seeing that. Of course this was 1981, years before the Rumournet. I traded the gun to a friend back in 88 and I know he had it up till the day he died a couple of years ago. No idea where it is today.
The gun also digested many .357 110 gr JHP without complaint. The only ammo problem I ever had was with the original Silvertips which would strip slivers of the aluminum jacket as they passed over the gas port and lock up the gun in 4-6 rounds.
I'll file the <100 gr P7 info with my no lead in Glocks info. I had only fired about 500 thousand rounds of it before I discovered the Rumournet and learned it was going to blow up my guns. LOL
JAC
varoadking
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That would be Kurz, mnrivrat.
usp9
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Rangegod,
Your gun, or was, and you're free to do whatever, but this from HK, not me...
From the P7 manual, page 11, ammunition section...
"The HK P7 pistols are designed to fire quality, factory-loaded, JACKETED
ammunition including jacketed hollow point ammunition, having
a bullet weight of at least 100 grains."
http://stevespages.com/pdf/hk_p7_owner.pdf
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IdahoLT1
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Yes you can.
I load Speer's 90gr. gold dots into 9mm cases for my Beretta CX4 storm. If i remember correctly, i load them with 7.1 or 7.4 grains of Power Pistol. Ive loaded ~300 of them so far and they have all been reliable and extremely accurate.
As far as cost, i have only seen 90gr. bullets with hollow points from Speer or Hornady, so it costs ~$13/100. IMO, it would be cheaper to buy bulk and probably copper plated 115gr since thats the most common.
I load Speer's 90gr. gold dots into 9mm cases for my Beretta CX4 storm. If i remember correctly, i load them with 7.1 or 7.4 grains of Power Pistol. Ive loaded ~300 of them so far and they have all been reliable and extremely accurate.
As far as cost, i have only seen 90gr. bullets with hollow points from Speer or Hornady, so it costs ~$13/100. IMO, it would be cheaper to buy bulk and probably copper plated 115gr since thats the most common.
Funny, three of the guns listed on that manual did not exist when I bought mine.
usp9, let me put your mind at ease. The ammo note in the HK manual has nothing to do with safety. The gun is basically a delayed blow back design and as such has a specific required recoil force window to ensure reliable operation. Bullets under 100 grains may or may not make this window. Therefore, HK does not recommend them. This saves them from having owners blame the gun when its an ammo problem.
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