45-70 for home defense

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yea i know... when i have money i want to. In the mean time, aftermarket cartridges will do. I just bought a box of buffalo bore 405 ers @ 2000fps. there's quite a bit of aftermarket cartridge choices out there, but handloading is the best
 
have not shot the buffalo bore 405's yet, recoil doesn't bother me, i'm a big guy so i have a lot of meat to cushion the blow, but i remember when i was 16 shooting one was scary.
 
If A 45-70 were all I had I would sure use it to defend my home.
Yes. But if an axe handle were all I had to defend my home, I would use it, too. The point is that, in our non-Mad Max/socialist European civilization, we don't have to use whatever we can scrounge up. The .45/70 is a great cartridge--I own four rifles and one revolver chambered for it--but I would not use it in a defensive context except as a camp gun in the middle of the woods. Recoil, muzzle blast, low capacity and overpenetration make it far from perfect, even with light loads.

As for firing faster than a pump shotgun, I highly doubt it. Throw length on the Marlins is a good distance and the fact that you are working the action with the same hand as you are pulling the trigger with makes me question that supposition strongly. A .357 lever gun? Maybe, since recoil is next to nil. But a .45/70? No, I am pretty sure my Winchesters will get back on target and fire a follow-up faster than my Guide Gun will.
 
Greg Koziol said:
sometimes when i get bored i'll sight the gun down my hallway or across the hard at night

Sounds painful. I'd be worried about the muzzle flash too. :eek:

While a .45-70 would no doubt be a good man-stopper in any loading I think there are much better choices for home defense as mentioned in several previous posts.
 
why not a punt gun, installed so it points down the hallway.
Load with canister! :)

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I once fired a 336 in 30/30 indoors (through the already open bedroom window) without hearing protection: not good.
I can imagine that when U fire the 45/70 in your home at night, you will be blind and deaf for the next half hour.
just my two cents
 
@vaupet

great comment.
Everyone else was very polite and scientifical about it. :)
 
it doesn't say bullet weight.
Says 100gr., which is on the light side, but more than heavy enough for what you need and should promote explosive expansion. The only problem that I have seen with Al. bullets is the muzzle flash (and that was in a .458SOCOM so the loads were certainly somewhat on the light side for .45-70Govt.).

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yea i saw it says 100 grains but i didn't believe it at first...wow 100 grains is light you could probably push that thing to 5000 fps lol. buffalo bore makes 300 grainers at 2350 out of an 18" barrel. I would buy them if they made the exact same bullet but in 250 grain, this way it could double as a longer range deer hunting round and for home defense.
 
I would buy them if they made the exact same bullet but in 250 grain, this way it could double as a longer range deer hunting round and for home defense.
Problem is, you'll not find one that is well suited for both tasks, better to have one low recoil/penetration lightly constructed load for HD, one moderate weight load for deer, and a heavy thumper for bear (if applicable). The last two could be served by one load (relatively heavy bullet driven fast), but again it wouldn't be optimized for the quarry.

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low recoil makes sense in self defense scenario.. the extra 800 fps won't matter at distances of 100 yards or less on men or man sized targets. It's for big african game and grizzlies and big bruins and bull moose you need that extra speed and weight.
 
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