45 cal Alchemy Spectre

Status
Not open for further replies.
The cost is $750 + shipping

These fit beautifully into the Heinie/Allesi G-21 holsters.


Length: 7"
Width : 1"
Height : 5.1"
Barrel : 4.5"
Weight: 32oz

The trigger is adjustable, and I haven't put trigger scale to it yet, since I can't seem to find mine... :uhoh:

{EDIT} Teddy Jacobson received 1 to play with yesterday. I just spoke w/ him and asked he he could put his trigger scale to it --- 7.5# out of the box. BTW: So far, he really seems to like what he sees, but will be getting us a detailed report, after he has the opportunity to fully disect and play with it.

Out of the box, the groups will obviously vary depending upon shooter and ammo... I haven't put mine to paper yet, but Richard Heinie did, and he seemed impressed w/ his 3 shot group. Dick Metcalf also ran a course of speed plates with mine, and smacked 15 plates w/ 15 rounds... That's a damn site better than I was able to do, but I'm not a pistol shooter either! :banghead:


For detailed info, contact me personally...

Tim Greene
217-223-5082
 
Last edited:
tgreene,

With all due respect, are you selling these pistols? I ask because it seems fair to let readers know your connection to Spectre.
 
With all due respect, are you selling these pistols? I ask because it seems fair to let readers know your connection to Spectre.
Click to expand...

YES, but we are not trying to "pimp" them. Rather we are getting the word out about the concept of a hybrid, and looking for honest feedback...

When we discoved these at the 2002 Shot Show, we fell in love with the design concept. We contracted with Alchemy Arms to build a limited number of these specifically for Castle Arms, Hence the "Castle Custom" engraving.
 
I can't wait to see Teddys opinion on these. i know they wil be good:)
I feel these are the in the group with the best out there..

Frank
 
Glad to see they've modified the safety on these to lock the slide. I think there are a couple other mods on the board, including an Ashley Dot Sight option and cut-away for checking mag seating.

In any case, this gun shows enormous promise. I'm still holding out for the Ti version, which may be some time (they were having a problem with cycling speeds too fast). Last I checked, Rob and I still owned numbers 1 and 2 of that model! :D
Rich
 
Rich,

The standard models do use the Ashley sights... As far as I know, only our version is using Heinie's Straight-8's.

The biggest refinements lately, are based upon the trigger and actions being cleaned up a lot.

Over the past year, I have obviously handled a lot of these, and every new batch is just that much better...

FWIW: I too am patiently waiting for that Ti version, because I have seen the prototype, and me likes it much! :D

On another subject, you should plan to attend the BRC (www.rifle-convention.com), since William (Alchemy) will be there, and he is hoping to have Ashley with him... The dates are June 5-8 this year.
 
when widely available?

When is the Spectre going to be widely available? I haven't seen one in any gunshop anywhere? Anyone else?
They need to update their website...
 
I might add too that Tim has "special" Spectres in stock.. Not just the average run of the mill ones that is available to the general public. Take a look at em, they are gorgous!

Frank
 
Titanium

How much more for the Titanium version? Is it worth the extra cost? Anyone shot this version?
 
How about a polymer frame? Don't the aluminum frames have a shorter service life than say steel (or polymer)?

cool looking gun, but I think my next purchase will be a Walther P99 9mm
 
USGuns: No price or even an ETA on the Ti version yet, but I can tell you it's extremely lightweight...

Tag: I agree with your intent to buy a P99... I have one in 40sw, and keep it as my nightstand gun! ;)

The Spectre is a flashy hybrid that doesn't appeal to everyone at first glance, but once you've had the opportunity to handle one, you'll soon be needing to wipe the drool from your chin! :p
 
As polarizing the Glock and the 1911 are, it's a wonder the Spectre doesn't explode from hating itself.
 
1. Can you use 1911 or Glock mags in it?

2. Any other calibers planned?

3. Is it classified DAO?

4. Any chance that prices will go down in the future?

5. What is the single best reason you can give a person to purchase this gun?
Click to expand...

1) This uses 10-round double stack modified Witness mags.

2) Eventually, they are looking at 40sw and 9mm.

3) Correct me if I'm wrong, but "I think" all striker fired systems are classified as DAO...

4) I can't answer this one, as it's a question for Alchemy Arms...

5) It's a 10-round 1911 having recoil being equivalent to a 9mm, that incorporates the best features of both the 1911 and Glock schools....

Basically, it's an LEO or IDPA shooters wet dream! :D
 
Some questions:

1. What is the point of making it striker fired instead of just single action like the 1911? So there isn't a cocked hammer to scare people? So cops that aren't allowed to use single-action 1911s can use it?

2. A 7.5 lb trigger is pretty bad. If you can't get a good 1911-style trigger pull (5 lb and crisp or less) out of the thing, you've arguably lost the 1911's most important feature.

3. Why does it "recoil like a 9mm"? What part of the design reduces felt recoil?

4. I would assume that the grip would be fatter than a standard 1911 with the double-stack mag. I find this bothersome, because one of the 1911s best features is its ergonomics (once the hammer doesn't bite you, anyway).
 
1. What is the point of making it striker fired instead of just single action like the 1911? So there isn't a cocked hammer to scare people? So cops that aren't allowed to use single-action 1911s can use it?

2. A 7.5 lb trigger is pretty bad. If you can't get a good 1911-style trigger pull (5 lb and crisp or less) out of the thing, you've arguably lost the 1911's most important feature.

3. Why does it "recoil like a 9mm"? What part of the design reduces felt recoil?

4. I would assume that the grip would be fatter than a standard 1911 with the double-stack mag. I find this bothersome, because one of the 1911s best features is its ergonomics (once the hammer doesn't bite you, anyway).
Click to expand...

1) I have no clue, but I really, really like it! :D

2) They are getting better and better with each batch we receive...

3) I'm not an engineer, but as I recall, it has to do with the specially designed lockup and weight balancing mechanisms.

4) The grip is the same as the 1911, if not actually a bit thinner. This is possible because there are no external grips being attached, since the grips have been CNC machined directly into the frame.
 
Tim is right.

I have a 1911 and this Spectra feels *BETTER* then it..

The recoil is way less then any other .45 that I have ever shot. In fact its way less then my Kahr K40 too..

This thing is everything and MORE then you can ever imagine. Its *that* good guys..

Frank
 
I have had several 1911's in the past (there's a void in the vault where 1911's typically sit), and currently have a Walther P99 in 40sw...

While I hate Glocks with a purple passion, I do love my Walther, and use it as my "house gun". I also love 1911's, but I'm a small guy and therefore I don't care for the weight of them, and the bitey recoil that is so typical.

The Spectre honestly removes recoil from the equation, and is very lightweight, while maintaining the full sized frame of a 1911.

We'll be setup in Tulsa this weekend, along the very back wall of the upstairs section... I'll make sure that we have a couple Spectres along for the ride, in case anyone would like to see and handle them... ;)
 
A titanium slide could be problematic, since the light weight would make it cycle too fast to be reliable (and beat the gun up in the process). It isn't impossible --the SV TiKi is all-titanium-- but alot trickier. A titanium frame, however, would almost be as light as aluminum, but WAY tougher. Caspian and SV have had good luck with titanium frames in 1911-type guns.

Make it with a titanium frame, heavy steel slide, and in 10mm Auto, and you might be onto something. :D
 
I was very wrong about the "DAO" thing, as my Walther P99 is Double/Single... (I should have known better beforehand)

The mags are now made by MecGar, and the mod is the location of the cutout for the mag release. Since these are now "production" mags, it's just a matter of using the blank Witness mag bodies.

As mentioned earlier, if you planning to attend the Tulsa show this weekend, drop by our table and check them out... :)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

D
  • Locked
High BC Hunting Bullets
Replies
8
Views
779
ms6852
ms6852
C
  • Locked
My "new" P7!
Replies
10
Views
2K
Sheslinger
S
S
  • Locked
CZ 75 TACTICAL SPORT > Review & Range Report
Replies
0
Views
4K
SA
S
H
  • Locked
Here's the New MD AWB
2 3 4 5
Replies
102
Views
3K
Slimjim
S
Brian Williams
  • Locked
S&W now to make the "M&P15"
2 3 4
Replies
78
Views
11K
MatthewVanitas
MatthewVanitas
Back
Top