6 or 7 rounds for defense

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Not that I think 1 round for a ccw is going to make a bit of difference. But if ya had a revolver with 6 rounds 357 magnum or semi auto with 7 rounds of 9mm, what would ya take?
Buddy said the 9 was the way to go for the extra round. I have a Speed Six and Shield 9 I rotate as my ccw.
 
My personal opinion is every extra round matters up to around 10-12 then you start getting into diminishing returns.

That said capacity is far outweighed, IMO, by other things. Which platform do you shoot better, which will you carry, which will you shoot more for fun etc.

Between the two the reloads are really the biggest difference from a hardware standpoint.
 
It seems to me that most people believe that the number of rounds they currently carry is the exact right number, and that anyone carrying fewer is a walking statistic and anyone carrying more is some sort of sociopath. I'm sure Kleanbore will be here to enlighten us soon enough, anyway.
 
I'd rather have 6 rds with a gun I'm trained on and more familiar with than the 7 rd gun, but that line of thinking extends on further capacity guns as well, I can shoot M&Ps better than glocks with identical capacities, in my mind stop worrying about capacity and toolsets and get quality training first, training is more important than revolver or auto
 
I too, have given some thought to this. I carry a Shield 45 which has either 6 or 7 depending on which mag I carry.

Is this sufficient, or should I carry something with a higher capacity?

I personally think that I would be best suited to regularly practice with my carry pistol than just add a few extra rounds.

What's a few more rounds if I'm not proficiently on target?
 
As said, carry the one you shoot the best. I love revolvers but I shoot my semi autos better so there’s no way I’d carry a revolver, even if they both held 6 rounds. I’m a huge fan of having more rounds than you think you’ll need, but if needed, don’t use any more than you have to.
 
I’ve gone back and forth with this. So there are many valid points.
As this discussion shows, there is no right answer.

Do you want a small gun? Are you ok carrying something larger and heavier? What caliber?

The adage something is better than nothing is so true. First get in the habit of always carrying when it’s allowed. After that carry what is comfortable to.

I’ve done sub compact 9mm, 45 ACP sub compact and now 9 mm compact.

I will say that my M&P 4” with the 17 round mag is heavy compared to the subcompacts but I actually find it the most comfortable. That said, if I’m wearing dress clothes then I’ll go with my small 9mm sub compact. And I love my 45 but right now it’s “resting” until I decide to start carrying it again.

My current thinking is more is better. Maybe I’ve seen too many mobs block highways, but in that kind of situation I’d rather have 17+1 plus a few spare magazines. After that, I think a bigger hole is better. But that’s just me.

Practice is important, and sadly this insanity is making us all less safe as I know most of us aren’t shooting as much as we’d like. All three of the guns I've mentioned I shoot decent. But the M&P I shoot the best. So that also is a factor. Plus I just like it the best. Everything from how it looks, to how it feels and how it shoots all are things I like.

I wish I could say, that Gun A is best. But the reality is we all have to try things, and adjust. And given time, we change things based on how we feel, what we like, and sometimes even just because we can and we want something new.
 
Capacity is about 4th or 5th on my list for carry guns.

A gun that you shoot well and are comfortable with should be number one regardless.

And remember.....there are apparently people who feel that every target they "engage" should have 5 rounds shot at it and you will be attacked by several people.

I'm not even sure a belt fed machine gun is enough for those sorts
 
I suppose it depends a little on the individual guns. On very rare occasions I carry a 5 shot Ruger LCRx, but literally only to walk out to the mailbox on the street. If I have to put on pants the minimum capacity of any of my CCW sidearms is my Beretta Nano which has two mags, a 6 rounder that fits flush and an extended that holds 8. With just the six + 1 the grip is actually kind of short (difficult to draw and only 3 fingers on the gun) so I generally carry it 8+1. I suppose maybe if we're talking guns that hold exactly that I might opt for the wheelgun because that's a full sized wheelgun vs a very very compact 9mm. On the other hand if we're talking my HK VP9 downloaded to just seven rounds for whatever reason I would probably pick the 9mm. Overall the 9mm is easier to shoot well unless I need to use a pocket gun. So if we're talking a mini 9 then I would probably rather have a Ruger Match Champion in .357 Magnum. Capacity isn't my biggest factor IMO, the main thing is to have one you shoot well.
 
I believe the extra round matters. I had a bad experience (mercy kill of an animal) that I wished I had the 7th round. I really hate it when people say, "if you can't get it done with 6, one more ain't gonna help you". It's such a stupid thing to say, one round can completely change the game, it's obviously dependant of the circumstances. If you're gun only carries six, fine. But if you can squeeze an extra round in when selecting a carry gun, I think you should.

Obviously I come down on the other side. I would take a 7rd 9mm over a 6 shot .357 any day of the week. There are exceptions. I would rather have a 6 shot .357 over a 7 shot .380/.32ACP/.25ACP.... but the 9mm and .357 are similar enough that I would want the 1rd advantage
 
Much certainly depends on the situation, the expected time duration, and the likely exposure, too.
If going for a long hike in the woods, a lightweight scandium / titanium .357 Mag would be nice.
Alternately, if going somewhere with random pop-up protests a possibility, extra capacity can be beneficial.
 
Alternately, if going somewhere with random pop-up protests a possibility, extra capacity can be beneficial.

There was a time when personal space and social boundaries were well understood and respected. This new breed of entitled, self aggrandizing, petulant tantrum throwing mob dweebs think they can walk up throw drinks in your face, throw rocks at your truck, swinging bats and pipes, tossing bricks etc, accost and threaten your family while you're sat down for a meal and worse.

Yeah I think capacity is a bigger deal now than it ever was....they are cowards at heart and are only bold enough to confront when they are backed up with a pack.
 
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Protests aren't cause to shoot people, at least not if we still want some shred of law in this country. Certainly I'm not cowardly enough to shoot people for protesting. That's not how America works, but our enemies operate that way.
 
Protests aren't cause to shoot people, at least not if we still want some shred of law in this country. Certainly I'm not cowardly enough to shoot people for protesting. That's not how America works, but our enemies operate that way.
I sincerely hope it wasn't my post that prompted you to say that. I don't think somebody who is peaceably protesting and expressing a viewpoint is of any danger to me or cause to shoot. But alot of those "protesting" arent peaceful and are taking it a step further and getting violent. You do your best to stay away from those people and you should be good, but you never know what kind of whack pack troop is gonna show up and somebody doesn't like the cut of your jib, hat you're wearing, bumper sticker on your pickup, etc.. The U.S. is a pretty random place these days, I'm just advocating for quantity over grain weight in light of it.

Take all the 2020 craziness out of the equation, I advocate the same thing. I've always been in favor of capacity over pretty negligible differences in pistol caliber...
 
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For me there are a number of other factors which are more important than round capacity when considering a CCW.

1) Reliability
2) Accuracy
3) Durability
4) Ergonomics
5) Concealability
6) Capacity
 
Carried a 1911 for 35 years no reason other than I like the feel. Now I carry a 686 no reason other than I like the gun I bought. I carry for the simple reason I have gotten older and slower, and injuries received in the military left me less agile than when I was in my 20’s.

The amount of rounds a gun holds is irrelevant to me. I am very comfortable with 5, 6, or 7 and am even comfortable carrying a 22lr. I never plan to handle a crowd of muggers, zombies, or a motorcycle gang. If you have to carry 20 , 30, or 40 extra rounds , it is a clear indication that familiarizing with your EDC is in order.
 
I never plan to handle a crowd of muggers, zombies, or a motorcycle gang.
I never plan to get in a shootout at all, not even with one guy who was a bad shot before he went blind and has only one round of .22Short in his tiny pocket gun with no sights and a 35lb trigger pull. But I carry a gun anyway and I even load it. It's been my experience that reality cares little about our plans. It serves up what it's going to serve up regardless of what we plan for.
If you have to carry 20 , 30, or 40 extra rounds , it is a clear indication that familiarizing with your EDC is in order.
First of all, nobody HAS to carry any rounds at all. Nobody even HAS to carry a gun. People choose to carry a certain number of rounds. Some based on their favorite movie, some based on statistical analysis, some based on a past bad experience--or maybe reading about someone else's bad experience, some because that's all they can manage, some because that's what's easy for them, some just because.

Second, no amount of familiarization with your EDC will make it capable of dealing with more determined attackers than there are rounds in the gun. Even the best shot in the world is in a lot of trouble if he's facing down 3 determined attackers and has a 2 shot derringer. And planning to make every shot a hit might not be a great idea--reality always gets a vote. In the real world even good shots miss occasionally, and the odds of missing go up with stress, movement, injury, poor lighting, and/or trying really hard not to get shot while shooting back.

Lance Thomas won his first gunfight using a 5 shot gun against 2 attackers--it took him 3 shots to neutralize one attacker--lucky for Mr. Thomas, the second attacker backed down. Thomas decided he didn't like relying on luck so he prepared differently going forward. That preparation stood him in good stead--his next gunfight was against five attackers. He fired 19 rounds from 3 different guns, killing two of his attackers--the others fled. He did miss a number of times. Some might think that was understandable since he was shot 4 times at the outset of the fight before he was even able to return fire. Of course, here, we know better, he said sarcastically. The fact that he had to fire 19 rounds to resolve a gunfight against 5 attackers is a "clear indication that" he needed more familiarizing with his self-defense gun.

I'm not going to tell anyone how many rounds they need to carry. But I do think it's important to keep in touch with reality. What does that mean?

The scenarios we do or don't plan for don't control the scenario reality hands us. Planning for one guy who stands still and is very slow on the draw doesn't mean you won't get 3 guys who are quick on their feet and show up with guns already drawn. Or maybe 5 attackers like Thomas' second gunfight.

Planning to have perfect marksmanship in a gunfight is not realistic. People miss in gunfights--often they miss a lot. Banking on making one for one hits isn't wise.

Assuming an attacker will go down after a solid hit is not realistic. Even assuming that two solid center-mass hits will always be rapidly effective could result in more than just mild disappointment or surprise in a real-world gunfight.

Again, I'm not going to quote a specific number that is "best" because that's not how it works. It's just very important to have a realistic expectation of what a particular choice is likely to mean if things suddenly go sideways in a really impressive way.
 
Carry the revolver or the Shield, no "rotation".
For me, Shield > revolver because I prefer pistols over revolvers.
I'd also prefer to have ammo left over than run out.
Bonus philosophy: Whatever pistol is carried in an area of greater "anticipated threat" should be carried everywhere.
Disclaimer for bonus philosophy, not counting if limited by work attire and concealable pistol was implied (Shield / Glock 19 / 1911 - not SBR / shotgun).;)
 
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