cool45auto
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This feature makes the PT92 a much better pistol than the POS Beretta!!!!
I put a D model spacer in my Vertec so if I want I can carry it cocked with the safety on for a SA first shot after thumbing off the safety.
This feature makes the PT92 a much better pistol than the POS Beretta!!!!
Should the hammer disengage from the sear by blunt force, it will fall to the half cocked position.
That's another way of phrasing it. The Beretta has a firing pin safety which is released when you make a DA pull, but I'm not sure if it's till active for an SA pull.
From the initial post.How did this become a Beretta vs. Glock only comparison?
I was interested to find as I compiled the information for the above list that there were more similarities than differences.Is a 92FS really any less safe than a Glock when carried this way?
It wasn't meant to be. It was just the first thing that came to mind when I wrote it. I've since learned quite a bit, and tried to change the direction of the discussion to the safety of the same pistol modified to function in a cocked-and-locked (for instance, how Cool9mm had mentioend) manner.From the initial post.How did this become a Beretta vs. Glock only comparison?
Yeah, that's basically why I was asking about CnL mods.Voilsb, I hope you now feel that carrying like that is dumb. However, maybe you're wondering what else is dumb, too.
I'll get a compact 1911
Absolutely irrelevant. You can't put the safety on with the gun cocked. The safety will decock the gun.The only difference you failed to mention is that if you pull the trigger of a Beretta with the safety on, it don't go boom.
Are you saying the grip safety only blocks the sear? (Yeah, I guess that's right since they made a big deal of the S&W 1911 having a firing pin block on the grip safety.)So how do you feel about cocked and locked Series 70 1911s? Only one failure to fire as in your above scenario.
I think that's a bit extreme. I don't mind carrying it loaded with the safety off (no other choice for my 92G), but IMO the long stiff DA pull substitutes for a safety. Otherwise everyone would be up in arms about revolvers being unsafe...There is no way I would carry my 92FS without the safety engaged.
Actually, as the author of the thread, I have to take contest with this. The thread wasn't really about which one was safer. As mentioned before, the use of Glock in the original post was simply because it was the first firearm of its type to come to mind, and it was an example.IMO, this thread isn't about which one is better, it's about which one is safer UNDER ONE VERY SPECIFIC SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. I think it's kind of sad that some people are so rabidly "My gun is best--every other gun licks dirt" that they can't even discuss relevant issues without making it into a major urination olympiad.
Frankly, you'd have to be stupid, crazy, or some combination thereof to carry the Beretta 9x series in such a manner.