9mm and 45ACP Revolvers

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I would like to know who makes/made revolvers in 9mm and also 45 ACP. I've done some research but I would like to have the knowledge of the collective group. Pics and model numbers would be great. We all love pics.
 
S&W also made a 9mm double action. Apparently, it didn't sell well.

Ruger makes convertibles in .357 / 9mm and .45 Colt / .45 ACP. The 9mm isn't known for accuracy. The .45s can be very accurate with either cylinder, mine certainly are.

S&W makes some terrific .45 ACP double action revos. Typically very accurate and a lot of fun to play with.
 
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S&W made a Model 547, in 3" round-butt and 4" square-butt configurations on a French police contract. A few over-run examples made it onto the US market. This revolver was different from the others in that it did not require clips in order to extract the fired cases - it had a system of springs associated with the extractor star which engaged the extraction grooves when the ejector rod was pressed.

The original M1917 .45 ACP revolver was made by both S&W and Colt, even though they are not the same revolver.

I believe that S&W M-625's are the only revolvers still in production in .45 ACP but S&W may also have re-introduced their M-610, which will handle either 10mm or .40 S&W cases, also with the use of moon clips. As far as I know, the 9mm S&W's, Rugers and Tauruses are all out of production.
 
9mm: S&W 547 blued K frame 3" or 4" barrels, uses speedloaders. S&W 940 stainless J frame 2" or 3", uses moonclips. Taurus 905 J frame blue or stainless 2", uses moonclips. Ruger SP101 J frame stainless, 2.25" uses moonclips. None of these are still in production.

45acp: S&W 625 4" or 5" stainless uses moonclips and is still in production. Taurus 455 2", 4" or 6.5" used "Stellar" clips. No longer in production.

10mm: S&W 610 4" or 6.5", stainless, uses moonclips will also shoot 40S&W and are back in production.
 
Taurus "made" the model 455, 45acp wheelie in 6.5,4, and 2'' snubbie. Here is a pic of my long and short barrels. Don't have the 4''. The 6 1/2" gets about 60 more fps velocity out of the 45acp than out of a 1911 with cast bullets, and is super accurate.

Also here is a pic of a Taurus model 905, 9mm I just traded off last week, also discontinued.

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Please excuse my ignorance, but I have always wondered how these automatic "rimless" cartridges keep from sliding in and out of the cylinder?
 
Please excuse my ignorance, but I have always wondered how these automatic "rimless" cartridges keep from sliding in and out of the cylinder?
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The same way that it works in a semi-auto. They headspace on the case mouth. You can also use moon clips to facilitate extraction (in the DA models, SA uses the ejector rod), but these are not needed for loading and firing.
 
AFAIK, only S&W and Taurus make DA revolvers in .45 ACP right now. I don't think that there are any 9x19 DA revolvers presently in production. As was mentioned, both S&W and Ruger have offered them, and some European companies, too. IIRC, all were originally produced for LE contracts.

Regardless of caliber DA revolvers chambered for rimless cartridges must incorporate a 'clip' system for simultaneous extraction. Most are referred to as "moon" clips, and are usually either "full' or "half" style. These are most often made of either stamped steel or polymer and hold the cases in place by engaging the extractor groove. "Full" moon clips are configured to hold the entire compliment of cartridges, usually 5 or 6. "Half" moons are most usually for weapons with 6 chambers and hold the cartridges in groups of 3.
 
They headspace on the case mouth. You can also use moon clips to facilitate extraction (in the DA models, SA uses the ejector rod), but these are not needed for loading and firing.
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And some rimless revolvers use a spring arraingement on the ejector star that grips the extractor groove of the cartridge. I can't think of anyone who makes revolvers like that right now, however.
 
Can you have the cylinder of ANY DA .357 or .38 revolver scalloped to take moon clips of 9mm?
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Various guns, such as those in .455 Webly, have been modified to take half moon clips by milling a bit of metal off the back face of the cylinder so they can shoot .45 ACP. And more than one gun has been ruined that way.

If you want to try it with your .38 or .357, I'd recommend getting a spare cylinder and modifying that, so if you ruin it, you haven't ruined your gun.
 
There was one SW 942 and some other prototypes mentioned in Supica's book. Some folks have made 942 from 642 and 940 parts. There were also the SW 356 (?) snubbies that would fire a 9mm.

Don't the Korths still have some 9mm convertibles for several thousand bucks? I also think but don't have the details that the Spanish had some 9mm revolvers.

What about the Charter Arms project for the rimmed 9mm?

It is a perennial desire on the Smith boards for a new 9mm SW - but it falls on the same ears as the slim line single stack 9mm Glock.
 
Current S&W DA Revolvers in .45 ACP / .45 Auto RIm
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Stainless Steel
S&W 625 5: Bbl. full underlug
S&W 625 5 1/4" w/ 2/3rds underlug
S&W 625 JM 4" Bbl. "Jerry Miculek" Serial # run

LIghtweight
S&W 325PD 4" Bbl. - scandium frame & Cyl.

Carbon Steel
S&W Model 25 3" BBl. square butt - Lew Horton
Serial number run in blued or nickel

Classic line - both with fixed sights
S&W Model 22 4" Bbl - rsembles 1950 "Army"
S&W Model 22 5 1/2" Bbl "Model of 1917" & resembles M1917

Note all of these can also fire the .45 Auto RIm which
was created by Rem.-Peters in 1920 same case
dimensions as the >45 ACP except it has a rim. The rim
is thicker than the usual rimmed cartridge as it
takes up the same headspace as the ACP rounds
with Moon Clips.
 
There is a thread running on the Smith-Wesson forum that says Charter Arms is considering introduction of both a 9mm and a .40 cal revolver.
 
Smith and Wesson did make a 9mm with full moon clips model 940. They did not go over very well as they were only made for a few years. I know some of them had extraction issues, but mine never did. All in all a great idea. A powerful snubbie ctg. with very quick reloads. The only downside is loading and unloading the clips.
 
seiko,

I am not trying to steal your thunder, just posting a photo of my 547 showing the extractors as it seems clearer.

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Ruger makes convertibles in .357 / 9mm and .45 Colt / .45 ACP. The 9mm isn't known for accuracy.
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That was my experience with the 9mm. Poor accuracy along with slow reloading, I didn't care for the gun and traded it.

Ken
 
I've got a Ruger Blackhawk in .357 mag with a 6.5" barrel and I picked up a 9mm cylinder for it a couple of years ago. I was pleasantly surprised how accurate it is. Maybe it's the barrel length...

I've also got a S&W 625 in .45ACP. These guns are tack drivers.
 
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