A day of irony

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Pure2nd

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It's rare that I spend money on myself, family always comes first...but my wife insisted a buy a pistol this weekend no ifs ands or buts. I had a budget of up to 1k but was very narrowly focused on 2 choices...cz75b or Beretta92fs. Despite limited pistol experience , I have shot but not owned a wide variety of pistols, and have owned and shot a wide range of rifles (context statement). While logic and research told me to buy the cz, I chose to buy my earliest infatuation, the 92fs. 9 Guns in Anderson, IN ordered me a new one, and I had a very nice experience throughout the process. After a very informative and educational discussion with the senior guy at the counter and learning he was a veteran range master, instructor, and accomplished competitive pistol shooter, I finally glimpsed his carry pistol and low and behold it was a custom cz75b. Immediately I questioned internally my decision but despite the irony, I've rationalized the situation as a clear need to buy another pistol (cz75b).
As a side note, one of my very best friends just texted me with pics of a rock island 1911 9mm that he had purchased the very same day at another gunshop that I had visited just an hour earlier than him. It was a good day!
 
I have never owned a Beretta. I did shoot a rental 92fs one day. A member of another forum I frequent was in town & we met at a range & tried out a bunch of 9mm's. The one I shot was a very nice pistol.
 
Pure2nd

While logic and research told me to buy the cz, I chose to buy my earliest infatuation, the 92fs.

No reason that you shouldn't go with your first love!

I tried the Beretta 92 but it was just too large for my small size hand so I went with my first love, the Browning Hi-Power! And with that budget (up to $1K I believe), you should be able to get not only your Beretta 92FS (Italian built $573, at Bud's Gun Shop), but a CZ 75B as well fairly soon ($567, also at Bud's Gun Shop).
 
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No reason that you shouldn't go with your first love!

I tried the Beretta 92 but it was just too large for my small size hand so I went with my first love, the Browning Hi-Power! And with that budget (up to $1K I believe), you should be able to get not only your Beretta 92FS (Italian built $573, at Bud's Gun Shop), but a CZ 75B as well fairly soon ($567, also at Bud's Gun Shop).
Your logic is infallible
 
Yeah, you can easily afford both for a grand. CDI Sales has perfectly functional CZ75 clones (Israeli surplus, made by Tanfoglio in Italy) for around $300. I have two of them and they are every bit as good as my friend's CZ-made version.
 
It's rare that I spend money on myself, family always comes first...but my wife insisted a buy a pistol this weekend no ifs ands or buts. I had a budget of up to 1k but was very narrowly focused on 2 choices...cz75b or Beretta92fs. Despite limited pistol experience , I have shot but not owned a wide variety of pistols, and have owned and shot a wide range of rifles (context statement). While logic and research told me to buy the cz, I chose to buy my earliest infatuation, the 92fs. 9 Guns in Anderson, IN ordered me a new one, and I had a very nice experience throughout the process. After a very informative and educational discussion with the senior guy at the counter and learning he was a veteran range master, instructor, and accomplished competitive pistol shooter, I finally glimpsed his carry pistol and low and behold it was a custom cz75b. Immediately I questioned internally my decision but despite the irony, I've rationalized the situation as a clear need to buy another pistol (cz75b).
As a side note, one of my very best friends just texted me with pics of a rock island 1911 9mm that he had purchased the very same day at another gunshop that I had visited just an hour earlier than him. It was a good day!
I either have or have had all of the major metal-framed 9mm automatic pistols. Luger, M39, P226, HiPower, CZ75, P38, etc.......and if they were all lined up on a table, I had to grab only one, and jump out a window, it would be my 92. Is it perfect? Nothing made by man is. But it does everything a handgun can do very well. Good choice!:thumbup:

Welcome to the forum!
 
I shot the 92FS back in the day, good pistol, but too bulky for me. If you like it, fantastic, rock on.:) I prefer CZ, fits me like a glove and keeps on rockin', but when you get between picking one high end handgun from another, it's a personal fit and feel.
 
Even if you had bowed to reason and logic, that 92 would just have been calling you amyway, singing the siren song of needing a new gun.

It was inevitable you would get both.

Enjoy the 92! And some day soon, enjoy the 75b!
 
You guys are awesome! After lurking THR for a month or so I decided to join in based on the high level of constructive knowledge provided by so many members of this forum. Having been a machine and robotics tech. (Plastic injection molding...i hope i can provide a miniscule amount of input for those with inquiries about polymer products) For the last 6 yrs I've learned that one of the things I enjoy more than anything is learning, and as a daily practice I learn about firearms on this forum. I've been shooting for more than 30 yrs but I'm now realizing how much i dont know. Thanks to all of you for your input!
 
You guys are awesome! After lurking THR for a month or so I decided to join in based on the high level of constructive knowledge provided by so many members of this forum. Having been a machine and robotics tech. (Plastic injection molding...i hope i can provide a miniscule amount of input for those with inquiries about polymer products) For the last 6 yrs I've learned that one of the things I enjoy more than anything is learning, and as a daily practice I learn about firearms on this forum. I've been shooting for more than 30 yrs but I'm now realizing how much i dont know. Thanks to all of you for your input!
Cool!

I'm sure you've noticed the new production 92 has a few poly parts; the guide rod, LH safety lever,and mainspring housing. The trigger and mag release are poly over spring steel.
Not sure how you feel about these, but Beretta offers a steel upgrade kit that replaces them. I did this to my gun and the trigger and guide rod made a HUGE difference in the feel of the weapon. The mainspring housing and mag release are mostly cosmetic, but IMO, they look much better in steel. Something to think about....:)
 
Good choice. I have 2 92s, a beretta 92fs and a old Taurus pt99. Can’t argue with what works, and the 92 just works. I do wish it could hold a 10mm, but since that’s my only gripe I think they did well with it. My Taurus is a better shooter because of the adjustable sights, but if I spend the money on the beretta it will be just as good or better. My beretta needs to come home though, it’s been visiting my dad for a while now waiting for him to decide if he wants to buy it or not.
 
Cool!

I'm sure you've noticed the new production 92 has a few poly parts; the guide rod, LH safety lever,and mainspring housing. The trigger and mag release are poly over spring steel.
Not sure how you feel about these, but Beretta offers a steel upgrade kit that replaces them. I did this to my gun and the trigger and guide rod made a HUGE difference in the feel of the weapon. The mainspring housing and mag release are mostly cosmetic, but IMO, they look much better in steel. Something to think about....:)
The parts kit you speak of will be my 1st upgrade. Wood grips to follow...there goes my 1k budget lol.
 
The parts kit you speak of will be my 1st upgrade. Wood grips to follow...there goes my 1k budget lol.
Installation is very easy- takes about 20 minutes with common hand tools. The only tricky part is the mainspring retaining pin, DONT tap it out.....push up on the housing to remove the pressure on it then gently push it through.
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Installation is very easy- takes about 20 minutes with common hand tools. The only tricky part is the mainspring retaining pin, DONT tap it out.....push up on the housing to remove the pressure on it then gently push it through.
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Thanks...small tips like this make a job much easier!
 
I bought an M9 about a decade ago when 38 special went from $6.50/box locally to $18 over a few years when popularity dropped off (its $22 now), and thought a 9 would pay for itself. I put about 200 rounds through it, and just couldn't hit anything without a rest, and several seconds between shots. Decided to just get a Lee press. After 9 years in a box, I sold it off, and a shot a friends CZ, and bought one a few months later. The person with my old M9 can shoot it very well. I initially avoided CZ's because of their trigger slap, but when I heard about the Omega, I jumped on it. To each his own, that Beretta could shoot very well, I just couldn't. I still call it "the squid" because its recoil impulse feels like fighting a squid/octopus tentacle :p
 
Check out what is available these days for the Beretta M9/92 family from Wilson Combat and Langdon Tactical. Lots of cool stuff for the Beretta these days.

Wilson Combat https://shopwilsoncombat.com/Beretta-92_96/products/465/

Langdon Tactical https://www.langdontactical.com/products.html
Thanks for the links...you just guaranteed me the next 4 Sundays overtime work. I didn't buy this gun as a carry piece, my entire reason for this purchase was to have a combat worthy pistol that can be my primary hd gun. After i replace the polymer bits this platform will be taking a visit to Langdon.
 
Thanks...small tips like this make a job much easier!
That tip works for American-made Beretta 92s. It won't work for Italian-made Beretta 92s. American-made pistols use a solid "dog bone" pin to retain the mainspring cap and that is easily pushed out when tension is taken off the lanyard loop/mainspring cap. Italian-made Berettas use a roll pin that must be driven out.

If you are going to replace the mainspring cap, you might as well swap out the mainspring while you are at it. Stock Beretta 92s and M9s are rather oversprung wrt the mainspring. A somewhat reduced power mainspring such as the 16 lb rated "D" spring will significantly reduce the weight of your double action trigger pull.
 
Solid choice. I like the CZ75 too, but something about the placement of the safety & slide stop/release feels wonky to me so, not for me. Those who like em? Rock em!
 

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I don't about your budget. However, you can't contradict your wife.
Suggestions:
CZ75 B new 550$
Beretta 92s surplus 320$ or 520$ new
 
metal parts kit and a D spring make a 92 in a really nice pistol that I wouldn't have a problem going into battle with.

this coming from an HK kool-aid drinking fanboi. :D
 
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